Does a Jumper Drop Immediately When Jumping Out of a Plane?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the physics of a jumper exiting a plane and the implications of initial velocity and air resistance on their motion. Participants explore concepts related to velocity addition, kinetic energy, and the effects of air resistance, comparing the scenario to dropping an object from a moving car.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that a jumper will drop from the spot they jumped from, questioning if this is analogous to dropping an object from a moving car.
  • Another participant counters that the jumper will continue moving forward due to initial velocity, but air resistance will slow them down over time.
  • A third participant introduces the concept of adding velocities, referencing a formula for velocity relative to the ground.
  • A participant seeks clarification on whether the kinetic energy of the jumper starts from zero upon jumping from the plane.
  • It is stated that relative to the ground, the kinetic energy does not start from zero.
  • One participant humorously critiques the teacher's explanation while suggesting that the teacher may have intended to provoke critical thinking rather than provide a definitive answer.
  • A later reply discusses the time it takes for the jumper to reach the ground, suggesting that the initial speed of the plane may not affect the fall time when considering air resistance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the teacher's explanation and the implications of initial velocity on the jumper's motion. There is no consensus on the accuracy of the teacher's statement or the interpretation of kinetic energy in this context.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about air resistance and its effects on motion are not fully explored. The discussion also touches on the application of Newton's laws, but the specifics of these laws in relation to the scenario remain unresolved.

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my teacher said he will just drop from the spot he jumpe up from, not continue moving in the direction of the plane for a while. Is this the same when i drop a object i am holding out of the car window in a moving car?
 
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God I hope your teacher isn't a physics teacher. You will continue moving forward but will be slowed down due to the air resistance over time.

Also, when you drop an item out of the car, it also travels forward as well, but again air resistance slows it down.
 
Just to add to what Pengwuino :smile: says …

this is all about how we add velocities

Vjumper,ground = Vjumper,plane + Vplane,ground

see eg http://www.jfinternational.com/ph/problems-on-vectors.html" :wink:
 
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kay thx, so to confirm the kinetic enerygy doesent start from 0 when he starts to jumps off the plane right
 


Relative to the ground, no.
 


Your teacher would certainly make a bad bombardier!

(In defense of the teacher, who is not here to make his/her own defense, I have know students to tell me their teacher said such and such, to find later that the teacher asked if such and such were true in an attempt to get the students to think about it.)
 


Well, if all you are interested in is how long it takes for the jumper to reach the ground, then even with (a separable form of) air resistance it will be irrelevant how fast the plane was moving, and it will take just as long for the jumper to reach the ground as if he had been jumping from a tower at the altitude of the plane. Also, (with no air resistance) the energy of the jumper is divided into a constant kinetic part along the "x" axis, and a constant kinetic/gravitational potential part along the "y" axis. Maybe that's what your teacher meant? I doubt that your teacher would have forgotten Newton's laws, but even so it sounds like he or she does a bad job conveying the subject accurately.
 

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