Does a Refrigerator Magnet Lose Its Strength Over Time?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around whether a typical refrigerator magnet loses its strength over time. Participants explore the factors influencing the longevity and strength of permanent magnets, including environmental conditions and physical impacts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that refrigerator magnets will eventually lose their power and fall off.
  • Others suggest that only quantized magnetization is permanent, prompting questions about the meaning of "quantized magnetization."
  • One participant explains that while permanent magnets gradually decrease in strength, this process is slow and influenced by factors such as temperature, physical impacts, and external magnetic fields.
  • Another participant clarifies that "quantized magnetization" refers to properties like the magnetic moments of subatomic particles, but notes that magnetization is a property of an ensemble of particles rather than individual ones.
  • A participant mentions that the presence of a steel door acts as a keeper, helping to maintain the magnet's strength longer than if it were placed on a non-magnetic surface.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the longevity of refrigerator magnets and the factors affecting their strength. There is no consensus on the terminology used, particularly regarding "quantized magnetization," and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these terms.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the complexity of magnetization and its dependence on various factors, including environmental conditions and the statistical nature of magnetization as a property of ensembles.

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I was surprised not to find a question about this from before, but the question is simply; does a "normal" refrigerator magnet wear out? Will it eventually loose its power and fall to the floor...?
 
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Yes, it will.
 
Only quantized magnetization is permanent.
 
Loren Booda said:
Only quantized magnetization is permanent.
What does that mean? What's "quantized magnetization"?
 
'Wear' is a somewhat misleading term. Permanent magnets gradually decrease in strength, but this has very little to do with usage. The "life" of a permanent magnet depends on many factors. Naturally occurring forces conspire to knock the little domains out of alignment. But this is normally a very slow process. Temperature is a major player in this process. The higher the temperature, the faster this process will occur. Extreme heat [surpassing the curie point] will immediately randomize the domains. A sharp blow can also knock domains out of alignments, as can other nearby magnetic or electrical fields. Radiation can also knock domains out of alignment. But again, under normal conditions, neither your fridge or you will live long enough to watch the little fellow fall to the floor in exhaustion. At the quantum leve [e.g., electrons] magnetism is eternal.
 
Gokul43201,

By "quantized magnetization" I mean properties like the magnetic moments of the electron, muon, proton or neutron, and perhaps surface magnetic field quantum effects near a superconducting ring with Josephson junction.
 
In that case, you should make it clear what you mean, because the terminology you used is, by no means, typically applied to these cases. Magnetization is a statistically defined quantity - it is a property of an ensemble of particles, not the property of a single particle. You can talk of the magnetic moment of an electron, but not of the magnetization of an electron!
 
Thank you, I will endeavor to remember that.
 
godd answer chronos.
But for generality, the fact that the fridge magnet is on the fridge (steel door). This will act in the same way as a keeper. Hence it will maintain its magnetism for a substantial length of time. More than if it was just resting on a table for instance. Of course, the domain theory will dictate its eventual downfall.
 
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sorry I meant good not godd!
 
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Was that a misnomer?
 
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Loren Booda said:
Was that a misnomer?

:smile: :smile: :biggrin:
 

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