Does anyone have a idea on how lifters work yet?

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The discussion revolves around the workings of lifters, a type of experimental propulsion technology. Participants explore various theories regarding their operation, particularly questioning the validity of the ion wind effect and its implications for future applications such as hoverboards and personal elevators.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses skepticism about the ion wind effect being the primary mechanism behind lifters and advocates for further research into the technology.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on what constitutes a lifter, indicating a need for foundational understanding.
  • References are made to a Mythbusters episode that purportedly tested the ion wind theory, with conflicting interpretations about its outcomes.
  • Some participants assert that the Mythbusters test aimed to disprove the ion wind theory but ultimately failed, suggesting it supports the theory instead.
  • There are claims that lifters may have been demonstrated to work in a vacuum, although the credibility of such claims is questioned.
  • One participant draws a parallel between lifters and ion propulsion technology used in spacecraft, noting similarities in the use of ionized gas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the mechanisms behind lifters, with multiple competing views regarding the validity of the ion wind theory and the results of the Mythbusters test. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of lifters and the assumptions underlying the claims about their operation. The credibility of sources mentioned is also a point of contention.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in experimental propulsion technologies, those researching alternative energy sources, and enthusiasts of futuristic mobility solutions may find this discussion relevant.

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does anyone have a idea on how lifters work yet? i am agreed with those that believe it is not a ion wind effect. i believe this technology should be researched and it is my goal to use it as my field of research. i was just hoping someone is already working on it.

i mean imagine, hover boards, and flying cars (no more tires) mobility belts that help elderly walk,m no more fuel sucking cranes, personal elevators...so many uses...

any thoughts?
 
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What is a lifter?
 


yeah i think that was supposed to disprove the ion wind theory. I am not sure though, id have to look at the episode again, its been a while.
 


Yes, the mythbusters test was designed to disprove ion wind theory and it failed, verifying ion wind theory.
 


i thought others had gotten it to work in a vaccuum? i seem to remember a article about possible propulsion technology for NASA.
 


xclr82xtc said:
i thought others had gotten it to work in a vaccuum?
No one with any credibility, no.
i seem to remember a article about possible propulsion technology for NASA.
Perhaps in an "alternate" science source, but not a mainstream one.

Though actually, the technology is not dissimilar from the ion propulsion some spacecraft use now. It also uses ionized gas (often xenon), though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_engines
 

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