Does Big Bang Theory Allow for God's Existence?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the compatibility of the Big Bang theory with the existence of God, exploring philosophical, theological, and scientific perspectives. Participants examine whether these two concepts can coexist or if they are inherently contradictory, touching on interpretations of scripture and scientific theories.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the Big Bang theory inherently rejects the existence of God, suggesting that both can coexist.
  • Others argue that the concept of two colliding universes contradicts traditional creation narratives, particularly from a biblical perspective.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the idea of multiple universes, stating it may be logically impossible.
  • There is a humorous reference to scripture suggesting a connection between God and the Big Bang, indicating a playful interpretation of religious texts.
  • Some participants note that the Big Bang theory was proposed by a Belgian priest, highlighting a historical connection between science and religion.
  • One viewpoint suggests that the Big Bang could be a continuous process, challenging the notion of a singular moment of creation.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the existence of God is a hypothetical concept, while the Big Bang is positioned within the physical realm.
  • Some argue that the Big Bang and biblical creation stories are not mutually exclusive, proposing that both could have occurred in a complementary manner.
  • There is a discussion about the biblical timeline of creation, with references to genealogies that suggest a young Earth, contrasting with scientific estimates of the universe's age.
  • One participant asserts that the Big Bang theory is more credible than biblical accounts due to the vast timescales involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on whether the Big Bang theory and the existence of God can coexist. Some believe they are compatible, while others see them as fundamentally at odds.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various interpretations of scripture and scientific theories, indicating that the discussion is influenced by personal beliefs and interpretations of both religious texts and scientific evidence. The debate remains unresolved regarding the implications of the Big Bang theory on the concept of God.

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Do you think that Big Bang theory reject God existence?
I don't know if you discuss about it before.But I want to know do you think that we couldn't accept Big Bang theory and God existence together?
 
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'Since we think that the big bang was two universes colliding, and by knowing that these universes have existed forever, it does contradict the creation of all things(bible's point of view)
 
I don't know how we know that these two universes existed forever thereby contradicting creation. In fact, more than one "universe" is logically impossible.

The Big Bang and God are both theories, I don't see why they can't coincide.

Besides, it's in scripture:

And God said, "let there be a big-A55 bang!"
 
That's true. Both theories are looking for the same thing, which is truth.
 
Wasnt the Big Bang theory invented by a Belgian Priest?
I believe it was seen as he moment of creation.
 
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PIT2 said:
Wasnt the Big Bang theory invented by a Belgian Priest?
I believe it was seen as he moment of creation.

Father Lemaitre, that was. Belgian, I believe. Back in the 1920s or 30s. It wasn't called the big bang back then; that was a 1950s sneer by the steady state cosmologists that was proudly taken up and used by the BB cosmologists.
 
^^^interesting

How about "in the beginning was the word and the word was God and the word was with God and the word was BANG." It's funny how sound now has a part to play in early universe inflation

In the first years after the big bang, oscillations would have resonated through the expanding ball of ionized gas as gravity tried to compress some regions, generating acoustic waves. "It's quite like a musical instrument," explains Wayne Hu, a cosmologist at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey. "You see one fundamental frequency and then overtones." After 300,000 years, the universe cooled enough to let free electrons combine with nuclei, making the gas transparent and releasing the radiation we now see as the CMBR.

The radiation emitted then should contain an imprint of the density peaks and valleys of the resonances. The wavelength of the main resonance--called the first Doppler peak of the CMBR--represents the distance sound waves could travel in 300,000 years. And because the speed of sound and the distance the CMBR traveled to us are both roughly known, the wavelength of the first peak is essentially a measuring stick laid out of the sky at a known distance. From its apparent size as seen from Earth, cosmologists can calculate the properties of the lens through which we are viewing it--the geometry of space.

http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/Ec&Ev_Distance_learning/cosmology.htm
 
Certainly you can believe in God and the big bang, but when you start believing specifics about God is when your definition of a god becomes your god and not necessarily somebody elses god. As for the big bang being in line with the Bible, that's just colorable at best.
 
What if the big bang is continuously occurring, and it has been for all eternity? GR says time is slower in higher energy densities (matter per unit space). If time is stopped at the center of the big bang (corresponding to infinite energy-density at that one single point), then it's only the stuff around that point that perceives time. Therefore, the universe has always existed, and will always exist, we are simply in one small neighborhood (observable universe) that is flying away from the center and it looks to us like the big bang happened once in the past, in a single moment.
 
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but there's no reason why God didn't create this scenerio either... I don't think.
 
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But I want to know do you think that we couldn't accept Big Bang theory and God existence together?
Personally...no.

'Gods' existence is purely hypothetical based on written text.

Where the existence of God can be debated in a Metaphysical way I think the possibility of there being a 'Big Bang' belongs in the Physical arena.
 
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Are you saying that the two concepts couldn't coexist, that they are somehow mutually exclusive??
 
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theblueprint_Nick said:
As for the big bang being in line with the Bible, that's just colorable at best.

Well sure, that's true. Genesis spells out the creation story and there's nothing like a big bang anywhere near that..

Fortunatily in my own scripture God and the Big Bang both happened. In fact, it's not like God made the big bang, or the other way around, it's just that they both happened and made each other. It's pretty deep.. But God was the big bang and he made it happen..
 
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Are you saying that the two concepts couldn't coexist, that they are somehow mutually exclusive??
To me, they're not so much as 'mutually exclusive' but have nothing to do with each other as far as my perception goes. It may be different for you.

If you like I can give you my thoughts on religion and why I came to my conclusion. Religion and Politics are 2 dodgy subjects to talk about, especially in the Web, because people can get quite emotional about things but I don't mind giving it a go :smile:
 
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Both are theories and i think big bang is more believable as it tells that the universe originated billions and billions of years ago. As per Bible it happened a few thousands of years ago which definitely not true.
 
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manulal, Can you tell me where in the bible it says when the universe was created? I did a search for it but it's a really long book so all I could find was "in the beginning".
 
  • #17
The 'beginning' was calculated by counting back the ages stated in the bible however I found this on the Web:

According to the Bible, Adam was the first man (1Corinthians 15:45; 1Chronicles 1:1), and adding the figures in the biblical genealogies yields a date of about 6,000 years ago for Adam's creation.
However, the Bible does not state that the creation of mankind and the creation of the universe occurred at the same time. The age of the universe is simply not stated in the Bible. It may well have been 10 or 20 billion years ago. The Big Bang is simply the most popular of the theories advanced to explain the creation of an enormous and majestic universe without acknowledging God and the biblical record. The theory's advocates admit that the universe came into being at a specific moment (even though they cannot explain the origin of the material from which the Big Bang supposedly proceeded).
So the Bible agrees with scientists' findings that there was a specific moment of creation.
 

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