MHB Does Commutativity Hold for Matrices A and B with a Specific Matrix C?

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Commutativity for matrices A and B holds when both satisfy the conditions AC = CA and BC = CB with a specific matrix C defined as [[0, 1], [-1, 0]]. A construction proof demonstrates that matrices A and B can be expressed in specific forms, leading to the conclusion that AB = BA. The discussion clarifies a typographical error regarding the initial conditions, correcting AC = AC to AC = CA. The proof involves substituting the defined forms of A and B into the commutative property. Ultimately, the findings confirm that under the given conditions, matrices A and B commute.
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If A and B are matrices that AC = AC and BC=CB, where C is a matrix whose first row's entries are 0 1 and the second row's entries are -1 0, then AB=BA.
 
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If A and B are matrices that AC = AC and BC=CB, where C is a matrix whose first row's entries are 0 1 and the second row's entries are -1 0, then AB=BA.
Is there a typo? Did you mean AC = CA?

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
Is there a typo? Did you mean AC = CA?

-Dan
Yes. I apologize.
 
Okay, so this is more or less a construction proof. You know that
[math]C = \left ( \begin{matrix} 0 & 1 \\ -1 & 0 \end{matrix} \right )[/math]

Let
[math]A = \left ( \begin{matrix} a & b \\ c & d \end{matrix} \right )[/math]

and
[math]B = \left ( \begin{matrix} w & x \\ y & z \end{matrix} \right )[/math]

So.
1) Using AC = CA show that
[math]A = \left ( \begin{matrix} a & b \\ -b & a \end{matrix} \right )[/math]

2) Using BC = CB show that
[math]B = \left ( \begin{matrix} w & x \\ -x & w \end{matrix} \right )[/math]

3) Using A and B from 1) and 2) show that AB = BA.

-Dan
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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