Does graphing equations ever stop?

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The discussion revolves around the experience of graphing equations in high school calculus and whether this practice continues in higher mathematics. Participants explore the utility of graphing, the transition to using technology for graphing, and the relevance of graphing skills in advanced studies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with graphing equations by hand and questions if this practice continues in advanced mathematics.
  • Another participant suggests that while graphing by hand may stop after school, the skills gained from it remain useful for understanding functions and their derivatives.
  • Some participants mention that technology, such as graphing software, can replace manual graphing, but emphasize that understanding the underlying concepts is important.
  • There is a discussion about the cost of graphing calculators compared to the availability of software like Maple or Mathematica, with some questioning the pricing of educational tools.
  • One participant notes that as mathematical problems become more complex, graphing remains a valuable technique, especially for non-algebraic equations.
  • Another participant highlights that with experience, one can sketch graphs without plotting every point, suggesting that pattern recognition can aid in this process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that while manual graphing may diminish after high school, the skill and understanding gained from it are valuable. However, there are differing opinions on the necessity of graphing by hand versus using technology, and the discussion includes unresolved questions about the cost of educational tools.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention that rough sketches may still be needed in certain contexts, such as finding volumes between surfaces, indicating that the application of graphing may vary based on specific problems.

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Currently in calculus high school level and everytime i graph an equation, i want to shoot myself. It's the most boring thing in the world to do. Does it get worse if i want to get myself into math? Does graphing ever stop?
 
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Graphing by hand, you mean? It's often useful to see what a function looks like on a graph, but there are programs that do it for you. I assume right now, you're doing it by hand just to get a feel for what the first derivative and the second derivative do to a function. Mins, maxes, inflection points, etc.

So yeah, the graphing by hand stops, but the experience you gain from doing that will always be useful, as long as you do anything with functions.
 
hi kramer733! :smile:

yes it stops once you leave school

(sometimes you may have to roughly sketch a graph, for example if they ask you to find the volume between two surfaces, but you won't need to do it accurately)

i'm afraid it's one of the things that are useful to learn at school so that you know how they work later :wink:
 
Yes, high school made me waste $100 on a TI when I can just use Maple or Mathematica...
 
flyingpig said:
Yes, high school made me waste $100 on a TI when I can just use Maple or Mathematica...

Not to get off topic, but as computing power has gotten better and cheaper, why hasn't the cost of TI calculators gone down? It's almost to the point where I could build a handheld computer to run mathematica for less than buying a TI-89.
 
Jack21222 said:
Not to get off topic, but as computing power has gotten better and cheaper, why hasn't the cost of TI calculators gone down? It's almost to the point where I could build a handheld computer to run mathematica for less than buying a TI-89.

The same question goes for "why are textbooks so expensive when we can just download them from the Internet"
 
Often times when you have a non-algebraic equation that you cannot solve exactly, the next best method is to simply graph it. So, since the equations you run into get more and more difficult as you advance in mathematics and physics, you actually use this technique more and more often.
 
kramer733 said:
Does graphing ever stop?

No, but you usually can use a computer to do the graphing.

Also after you've done it enough, you don't have to graph things point by point. If you give me a polynomial equation, I can pretty much sketch out what the graph looks like, without going through point by point.

What is an important skill, which you can pick up is to be able to look at the equation and then quickly draw the graph on a sheet of graph paper without doing it point by point.

Also something that you should try to do if you get bored is to figure out patterns so that you can do the graph quickly. For example, if you have an equation of the form ax+b, then you should be able to figure out that once you've graphed two points, you are done.
 

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