Does it matter if a physics internship is paid or not?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of whether a physics internship is paid or unpaid, particularly in the context of applying to graduate school. Participants explore the perceived value of funding in relation to experience gained and its impact on future opportunities.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about whether having a paid internship would enhance their graduate school applications, despite initially not seeking funding.
  • Another participant questions the relevance of payment, suggesting that the perception of the internship's value may depend on who is evaluating it.
  • It is noted that professors face restrictions on paying interns below minimum wage, which could complicate the situation.
  • Some participants argue that the funding source matters, with internships funded through grants being viewed more favorably than those paid out of pocket by professors.
  • One participant shares personal experience, indicating that most internships are unpaid and that payment is often not mentioned on resumes.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the significance of payment may be less important than the experience and contributions made during the internship, such as being credited in publications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the importance of whether an internship is paid or unpaid, with no consensus reached on its overall impact on graduate school applications.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions regarding the implications of funding, the nature of internships, and the criteria used by graduate programs to evaluate applicants.

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So, I am an undergraduate student who wasn't able to obtain a national scholarship (REU, NSERC type) for this summer. But I was able to get an internship with a professor, who needed a certain project to be done in his lab, and apparently rather desperately. However I went in with the premise that I didn't need any funding for the work and informed the professor of this. However I am still wondering if the experience would look better, such as for applying to graduate school, if it would be funded (no matter how little) by the professor. And even so, is it worth the risk of asking the professor for a few dollars an hour just to have a proof that the research project is being funded? thanks for reading
 
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Look better to whom?

You realize that a professor cannot pay you less than the minimum wage without jumping through LOTS of hoops. This may be a dealbreaker.
 
I don't think it matters. When you list this position on your resume, it's not like you're going to write "got paid $8/hr" or whatever. If you're happy not being paid, I think it would be better to stick with that, instead of causing unnecessary complication and risking losing the position.
 
If he's paying you through a grant like an REU it looks great. If he has to pay you out of pocket, then nobody cares. I did 4 internships like that during my undergrad and only 2 of them were paid, both times the professor paid out of pocket. When I list these internships, I don't even bother mentioning that I was paid.

Most internships you do during undergrad will probably NOT be paid. Unfortunately this is fairly standard.
 
zheng89120 said:
So, I am an undergraduate student who wasn't able to obtain a national scholarship (REU, NSERC type) for this summer. But I was able to get an internship with a professor, who needed a certain project to be done in his lab, and apparently rather desperately. However I went in with the premise that I didn't need any funding for the work and informed the professor of this. However I am still wondering if the experience would look better, such as for applying to graduate school, if it would be funded (no matter how little) by the professor. And even so, is it worth the risk of asking the professor for a few dollars an hour just to have a proof that the research project is being funded? thanks for reading

Whether or not the position is funded only matters to you. I was a TA, and no one cared about my pay. I got in-state student rates/status for it, so was fine for me. If you are doing any significant amount of the scientific work, hopefully, you'll get mentioned in the publication. Publications do matter.
 

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