Does it take two forces to deform an object?

  • Thread starter Thread starter tomR
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary
The discussion centers on whether two forces are needed to deform an object, particularly in the context of space junk impacts. It argues that a single force from the impacting object can cause deformation, with the second force being the reaction of the object being hit, represented by its mass and acceleration. The concept of inertia is highlighted, especially in high-speed impacts where the effects are localized. Space junk travels at significantly high velocities, leading to rapid impacts that primarily affect the immediate area. Overall, the conversation emphasizes that deformation can occur from a single force under specific conditions, particularly during high-rate processes.
tomR
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
I have a question - if 2 forces are required to deform an object then why does a piece of space junk impacting an object in space cause deformation? What is the second force?
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
:welcome:

Who says it takes two (external) forces to deform an object? Just look at a slow-motion video of bat hitting a ball.
 
  • Like
Likes sophiecentaur
Action and Reaction ?? :wink:
 
Ignoring the subtleties, inertia becomes dominant for high rate processes.
 
tomR said:
What is the second force?
Because ##F = ma##.
The first force is ##F##, the force applied by the impacting object.
The second force is ##ma##, or the mass of the object being hit multiplied by the acceleration of that object.

Frabjous said:
inertia becomes dominant for high rate processes.
Typical space junk is moving roughly ten times the velocity of a high velocity rifle bullet. That's a high rate process. The whole impact happens so fast that only the material in the immediate vicinity of the impact is affected. Space junk impact is finished punching a hole (or crater) before the material away from the impact is affected by the impact force.
 
  • Skeptical
Likes PeroK and Frabjous
My idea is that I want to use immerse Whitetail Antlers in a fishtank to measure their volumetric displacement (the Boone and Crockett system is the current record measurement standard to place in a juxtaposition with) I would use some sight glass plumbed into the side of the tank to get the change in height so that I can multiply by the tank cross-section. Simple Idea. But... Is there a simple mechanical way to amplify the height in the sight glass to increase measurement precision...

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
Replies
8
Views
668
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
6K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K