Does Living Near Fast Food Increase Your Risk of Stroke?

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The discussion centers around the potential correlation between living near fast food restaurants and the increased risk of stroke. Participants explore various aspects of this relationship, including causation versus correlation, demographic factors, and the implications of fast food availability on health outcomes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about the cause-and-effect relationship, noting that the correlation between fast food proximity and stroke risk is intriguing.
  • Questions are raised about whether the location of fast food restaurants is influenced by the demographics of the area, suggesting that high concentrations of fast food may correlate with other socioeconomic factors.
  • Participants mention that fast food establishments must have customers to remain in business, implying that consumption patterns are relevant to the discussion.
  • There is a suggestion that the correlation observed may also apply to other types of businesses in similar commercial zones, not just fast food.
  • Some participants call for more data to better understand the relationship and the factors involved.
  • References to studies indicate that living near a high number of fast food restaurants may increase stroke risk, but the general prevalence of fast food locations raises questions about the significance of the findings.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between living near fast food and stroke risk. Multiple competing views are presented, with some emphasizing the need for further data and others questioning the validity of the correlation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions regarding demographic factors, the definition of "living near" fast food, and the need for clarity on the geographical scope of studies referenced.

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I'm less certain about what is cause and effect, but the correlation is interesting.
Living Near Fast Food Ups Stroke Risk
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/story?id=6914363&page=1

Have the fast food places sited their pick-up windows where their market is, or is the statistical correlation a result of the siting of so many fast food places?

13% looks to be somewhat notable.
 
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or is the statistical correlation a result of the siting of so many fast food places?
Does living near lots of Mercedes dealerships cause high incomes?
 
Someone has to be eating all that fast food for them to stay open. :wink:
 
need more data.
 
Moonbear said:
Someone has to be eating all that fast food for them to stay open. :wink:
Moonbear?!? Did you really think you could sneak back without being noticed? Good to see you!
 
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Hi Russ and MIH. Yep, just sneaking in and then heading back out again soon. My computer doesn't work with my boyfriend's internet (yeah yeah yeah, this is a perpetual problem that someday he might have time to call the cable company to fix for me...once in a while I have to let him fix something so I don't totally emasculate him), and he has his laptop with him. So, I'm sitting in the lounge smelling the take-out some other folks are eating in here and getting hungry.
 
Moonbear said:
Someone has to be eating all that fast food for them to stay open. :wink:

Er... I must be dreaming...

{pinches Moonbie to make sure she's real}

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
{pinches Moonbie to make sure she's real}

Ow! Some welcome back, getting pinched!

I feel strangely naked without my mentor cape and superpowers.
 
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Hey MB, good to see you popping back in!

Quick.. someone lock the door! :devil: [/size]
 
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Good to see you back, moonie!
Moonbear said:
I feel strangely naked ...
And it's nice that you've taking up mooning again!
 
  • #13
LowlyPion said:
I'm less certain about what is cause and effect, but the correlation is interesting.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/story?id=6914363&page=1

Have the fast food places sited their pick-up windows where their market is, or is the statistical correlation a result of the siting of so many fast food places?

13% looks to be somewhat notable.

They look at all of the demographics...population density, income, traffic, proximity to commercial/retail/industrial/highways.
 
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Welcome back MB :smile:
 
  • #15
There are a lot of things to consider. Normally, fast-food joints in Maine in places that are zoned for commercial development. If you drive around such areas, you don't see nice well-kept houses and grounds. You see apartment buildings (often run-down) small businesses, rent-to-own places, etc. Generally as you sample the demographics in areas such as this, you might expect to see poverty/obesity/stroke risk correlate to some extent.
 
  • #16
turbo-1 said:
There are a lot of things to consider. Normally, fast-food joints in Maine in places that are zoned for commercial development. If you drive around such areas, you don't see nice well-kept houses and grounds. You see apartment buildings (often run-down) small businesses, rent-to-own places, etc. Generally as you sample the demographics in areas such as this, you might expect to see poverty/obesity/stroke risk correlate to some extent.

My thought, too, turbo. There are a lot of businesses that share that land-use zone...gas stations? Taverns? Laundromats? I bet the correlation holds for a lot of different businesses, not just fast food.
 
  • #17
lisab said:
My thought, too, turbo. There are a lot of businesses that share that land-use zone...gas stations? Taverns? Laundromats? I bet the correlation holds for a lot of different businesses, not just fast food.
Exactly!
 
  • #18
I can see where that study may be valid. You can't eat it if it isn't available.

http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-big-mac-i21111
 
  • #19
edward said:
http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-big-mac-i21111
That looks a lot less harmful than I'd imagined.
 
  • #20
Gokul43201 said:
That looks a lot less harmful than I'd imagined.

That is a lot of cholesterol and fat compared with other choices.

http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-subway-sandwiches-6-oven-roasted-i55980
 
  • #21
Also in the news:

...The key finding: The more cups of coffee participants drank, the less likely they were to report ever being diagnosed with a stroke. For instance, among people who reported drinking one to two cups of coffee per day, 5% reported a history of stroke, compared to 3.5% of people who reported drinking three to five daily cups of coffee and about 3% of people who said they drink six or more cups of coffee per day...
http://www.webmd.com/stroke/news/20090219/tea-coffee-may-reduce-stroke-risk?src=RSS_PUBLIC

I should be strokeproof.

Welcome back Moonbear! [I knew she was coming :biggrin:]
 
  • #23
edward said:
I can see where that study may be valid. You can't eat it if it isn't available.

http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-big-mac-i21111
I can go to the taqueria down the street and buy a one pound buritto loaded with sour cream, guacomole, and cheese with my choice of fatty salty meat. costs about the same as a burger and fries from mcdonalds too.
 
  • #24
'Tis better to fast from food than to feed on fast food.
 
  • #25
"esearchers studying neighborhoods in one Texas county found that people living in regions with 33 fast food restaurants or more had 13 percent greater odds of stroke than those living in neighborhoods with the fewest fast-food joints. "


I don't know though, who doesn't live close to atleast some fast food places? Theyre everywhere. I wonder how big of a size they count the regions. Unless you live somewhere rural there are always fast food places close by.
 
  • #26
elterrible said:
"Researchers studying neighborhoods in one Texas county found that people living in regions with 33 fast food restaurants or more had 13 percent greater odds of stroke than those living in neighborhoods with the fewest fast-food joints. "
From the image it looks like they have proved that living near neon signs causes strokes!
 

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