Does Rotational Rigidity Affect Angular Velocity Consistency?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between rotational rigidity and the consistency of angular velocity and acceleration in rotating bodies. Participants explore whether a body must be perfectly rigid to ensure uniform angular velocity and acceleration across all points.

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  • Participants examine the implications of non-rigid bodies on angular velocity transmission, questioning how rigidity affects the initial and final states of angular motion. They consider scenarios involving different materials, such as jelly and chocolate, to illustrate their points.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering various perspectives on the necessity of rigidity for consistent angular motion. Some suggest that while rigidity may not be required for constant angular speed, it could be essential during angular acceleration. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants acknowledge the complexity of the topic, noting that assumptions about material properties and deformation during rotation are under consideration. There is mention of the need for further calculations to clarify the conditions for uniform angular acceleration.

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Does a body rotating about a fixed axis has to be perfectly rigid for all points on the body to have the same angular velocity and the same angular acceleration? Why? :bugeye:
 
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Yes, because the transmission of movement in a non-rigid body takes place basically from atom to atom...hence if you are too far ayway from the axis, there are regions that have still not been reached by the moving atoms, which have not transmitted their movement to the outer ones...maybe there is better explanation
 
Lets say the object was not rigid. Let's say a piece of jelly was rotating. If the jelly was initially not rotating and gradually attained a constant angular velocity,i.e it had an angular acceleration, do you think a point nearer to the axis would initially have had a higer or lower angular velocity, or equal?
 
I would think that a point near the axis would have more angular velocity at the beginning.. but does this means that for all the point in the object to have the same angular velocity and angular acceleration they'd have to be rigid?
 
That's a good question i thought i made a mistake...After some relfexion, I would say : if the ang. speed. is constant, then the body does not need to be rigid...in fact i think, in a real case, the body will modify itself during ang accel. at the beginning, and then reach an equilib. but this equib. final state at constant ang. speed is different than the body before you started to put it in rotation (maybe not for jelly, but for soft chocolate)...so the answer is : if you want same constant ang. speed (hence not the instantaneous one in an accel. case), it does not need to be rigid...but if you have an ang. accel, it needs...i think it's more correct, but there still lack some calculation, for example : does the ang. accel. to be everywhere the same need maybe not to be completely rigid, but some kind of special deformation are allowed...
 
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