Does Solenoid Diameter Affect Acceleration of a Metal BB?

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The discussion centers on whether the diameter of a solenoid affects the acceleration of a metal BB when subjected to a uniform magnetic field. Participants agree that for infinitely long solenoids, the magnetic field remains uniform regardless of diameter, as described by the equation B = μ₀NI. However, it is noted that in practical scenarios with ordinary long solenoids, the magnetic field is nearly uniform, allowing for the assumption of equal acceleration for the BB in both solenoids. The consensus is that the diameter does not significantly impact the acceleration of the BB within the solenoid's magnetic field.

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Homework Statement




We're given two solenoids with identical currents and turns per unit length. But the solenoids have different diameters. Would a metal BB experience a larger acceleration in the smaller diameter tube, assuming we use the same BB in both solenoids it accelerates along the z-axis, which goes through the center of the solenoid?

Homework Equations



Magnetic field through a solenoid:

B = \mu_0NI

Where N is number of turns per unit length and I is the current.

Biot-Savart Law:

B = \frac{1}{4\pi}\frac{I\Delta \vec{s} \times \vec{r}}{r^2}

The Attempt at a Solution



My thought is that since the BB experiences the same uniform magnetic field in both solenoids, the acceleration is the same. The equation for the magnetic field through a solenoid does not include diameter, I notice. But I was having a little debate on this subject and my friend says he would expect the field to sort of dissipate as the diameter increases. This would make total sense if it were a point charge; you'd use Biot-Savart's law. Who is right?
 
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hi joe_cool2! :smile:

(what's a BB ? :confused:)
joe_cool2 said:
The equation for the magnetic field through a solenoid does not include diameter, I notice. But I was having a little debate on this subject and my friend says he would expect the field to sort of dissipate as the diameter increases.

you are correct …

if the solenoid is infinitely long, the magnetic field is uniform

if the solenoid is ordinary long (ie, a lot longer than wide), the magnetic field is nearly uniform, and you can assume this to be so in exam questions! :wink:

from hyperphysics

"The magnetic field is concentrated into a nearly uniform field in the centre of a long solenoid"​
 
See here for description of BBs. They are often made of steel with a copper or zinc coating, lead, or plastic. I don't see how a BB in a B field (pun intended, sorry) would experience any noticeable acceleration.
 

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