Does the electric current have a direction?

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The discussion clarifies the nature of electric current, establishing that while electric current is measured in amperes (a scalar quantity), it indeed has a direction, making it a vector in terms of current density. The equation for current density, j = ρv, illustrates this relationship, where ρ is charge density and v is velocity. The distinction is made that while the total current I through a surface is scalar, the current density J is a vector, and the directionality of current is associated with the geometry of the conductor rather than the current itself.

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We know that the electrical current is scalar. Also we know that a scalar hasn't got a direction but electric current has got a direction. I've confused! Please help me..
 
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hmalkan said:
We know that the electrical current is scalar. Also we know that a scalar hasn't got a direction but electric current has got a direction. I've confused! Please help me..

How do you know that electric current is a scalar?

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Electric current does have a direction, and, as such, is a vector, and not a scalar.
 
Electic current does have a direction, the problem is the frequent appearance of the equation:

i = \frac{dq}{dt}

which does not really tell exactly what current is; this equation only gives you the magnitude, not the direction. I prefer to define the surface current density:

\vec{j} = \rho \vec{v}

in terms of the charge density and the velocity. Then we have:

\vec{i} = A \vec{j}

where A is the area.
 
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VHYYJB0KL._SL160_.jpg

This is my book. It says electric current is a scalar at the heading of chapter 2.

 
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The current density \vec J is a vector, but the current I through a given surface is a scalar, as can be seen from the relationship between the two:

I = \int{\vec J \cdot d \vec a}

When you're calculating e.g. the magnetic force on a current-carrying wire, the directionality of the current is properly associated with the length of the wire rather than with the current itself:

\vec F = I \vec l \times \vec B

for a straight wire segment and uniform \vec B, or

\vec F = I \int {d \vec l \times \vec B}

otherwise. This assumes that \vec B doesn't vary significantly over the cross-section of the wire. If it does, then you have to calculate the force by using the current density and integrating over the volume of the wire:

\vec F = \int {(\vec J \times \vec B) dV}
 
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confinement said:
\vec{i} = A \vec{j}

where A is the area.

You have to allow for the area not being perpendicular to the current. If \vec J is uniform, then you can use

I = \vec J \cdot \vec A

where the direction of \vec A is perpendicular to the surface. If \vec J is not uniform, then you have to integrate.
 
jtbell said:
The current density \vec J is a vector, but the current I through a given surface is a scalar, as can be seen from the relationship between the two:

I = \int{\vec J \cdot d \vec a}

When you're calculating e.g. the magnetic force on a current-carrying wire, the directionality of the current is properly associated with the length of the wire rather than with the current itself:

\vec F = I \vec l \times \vec B

for a straight wire segment and uniform \vec B, or

\vec F = I \int {d \vec l \times \vec B}

otherwise. This assumes that \vec B doesn't vary significantly over the cross-section of the wire. If it does, then you have to calculate the force by using the current density and integrating over the volume of the wire:

\vec F = \int {(\vec J \times \vec B) dV}

I don't understand what \vec B stands for.
 
hmalkan said:
I don't understand what \vec B stands for.

Magnetic field.
 
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hmalkan said:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VHYYJB0KL._SL160_.jpg

This is my book. It says electric current is a scalar at the heading of chapter 2.


Current is scalar.

Current (in amperes) is the amount of charge that passes through a point on a conductor every second. It is just a number. An "ampere" is a scalar quantity.

But, and this might make it confusing, but the electrons do flow in a given direction.
The electrical current does have a direction, but that information isn't contained in the unit "ampere".

Does that make sense at all? I could try to explain it better...
 
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The units only ever measure magnitude, not direction.

It doesn't even make sense to have vector units.
 
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All you are very helpful. Thanks for replies.
 

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