Does the Ratio Test guarantee convergence for this infinite series?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the ratio test to determine the convergence of the infinite series defined by the terms \( u_n \). Participants explore the implications of the inequality \( \frac{u_{n+1}}{u_n} \leq 1 - \frac{2}{n} + \frac{1}{n^2} \) for \( n \geq 2 \) and whether this guarantees convergence of the series \( \sum{u_n} \).

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Bailey, expresses uncertainty about applying the ratio test and notes that the limit converges to 1, leading to two interpretations regarding convergence.
  • Another participant suggests a specific form for \( u_n \) as \( \frac{k}{(n-1)^2} \), asserting that this series converges based on known results about \( \sum{\frac{1}{n^2}} \).
  • Some participants question the uniqueness of the series satisfying the given inequality and propose using Gauss' convergence test as an alternative approach.
  • A participant points out that the ratio test may fail since the limit is equal to 1, which does not satisfy the condition for convergence.
  • Another participant elaborates on the inequality and suggests an inductive approach to show that the desired inequality holds, though they acknowledge potential inaccuracies in their details.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the ratio test guarantees convergence. There are competing views on the applicability of the ratio test and the existence of other series that satisfy the initial inequality.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the form of \( u_n \) and the conditions under which the ratio test applies remain unresolved. The discussion includes various interpretations of the limit and its implications for convergence.

MrBailey
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Hi all!
Here's something I'm having difficulty seeing:
Suppose

[tex]u_n > 0[/tex] and

[tex]\frac{u_{n+1}}{u_n} \leq 1-\frac{2}{n} + \frac{1}{n^2}[/tex] if [tex]n \geq 2[/tex]

Show that [tex]\sum{u_n}[/tex] is convergent.

I'm not sure how to apply the ratio test to this.
It looks like I would just take the limit.

I get: [tex]lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} 1-\frac{2}{n} + \frac{1}{n^2} = 1[/tex]

I'm not sure if I'm correct, but I could see this two ways.
Since the above limit converges to 1, then the summation converges by the ratio test.
Or, since the limit converges to one, the summation may converge or diverge.
Is either statement correct? Am I on the right track?
Thanks for the help.
Bailey
 
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Got it...

[tex]u_n=\frac{k}{(n-1)^2}[/tex] where k is a constant.

This is just the series:

[tex]k \sum{\frac{1}{n^2}}[/tex] which we know convergesWhew!

Bailey
 
Since the ratio test demands that the limit be less than 1, it looks as though the ratio test fails as Mr. Bailey have shown.
 
Couldn't there exist other series which satisfy said inequality?

He probably meant u_n <= k/(n - 1)^2.

Let a_n = 1 - 2/n + 1/n^2.

Then u_(n + 1) <= a_n * u_n <= a_n * a_(n - 1) * u_(n - 1), etc. Inductively, we have that u_(n + 1) <= a_n * a_(n - 1) * ... * a_1 * u_0.

But as "luck" would have it, a_n * a_(n - 1) * ... * a_1 = 1/(n - 1)^2 (easy to show with induction), so the desired inequality follows. (N.B the details are probably not all correct. But that's relatively unimportant).
 

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