Does the speed of light remain constant in an expanding universe?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the constancy of the speed of light in the context of an expanding universe. Participants explore whether the expansion affects the time it takes for light to travel from the Sun to Earth and the implications of relative motion on the perception of light's speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question if the speed of light remains constant given the expanding universe and the increasing distances between celestial bodies.
  • One participant asserts that in a vacuum, the speed of light is constant, but acknowledges that the distances between galaxies are increasing.
  • Another participant clarifies that the distance from Earth to the Sun is not changing, thus the light travel time remains constant for that distance.
  • There is a discussion about the relativity of speed, with an analogy involving cars to illustrate how relative motion does not affect the speed of light.
  • Some participants express confusion about the concept of the universe's expansion and seek clarification.
  • One participant suggests reading basic cosmology to better understand the topic.
  • A reference to Leonard Susskind is provided as a credible source for learning about cosmology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the speed of light is constant in a vacuum, but there is uncertainty regarding how the expansion of the universe affects light travel time and the interpretation of relative motion. The discussion remains unresolved on these points.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the participants' varying levels of understanding of cosmology and the potential for misinterpretation of the effects of the universe's expansion on light travel time.

Swetha.M.L
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Is light's speed constant? The universe is expanding, i think the distant b/w the planets&stars are increasing is that true? is it true then is the time taken to reach sun light to Earth now from past change? if the time is constant then how the speed of light is constant?
 
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Swetha.M.L said:
Is light's speed constant?
In a vacuum, yes.

The universe is expanding, i think the distant b/w the planets&stars are increasing is that true?
yes
EDIT: I was a bit fast on that one. No, the things in the solar system are not moving apart. I was thinking you were talking about galaxies which ARE moving apart (except in clusters). I suggest you read the link in my signature.

is it true then is the time taken to reach sun light to Earth now from past change?
yes
EDIT: again, I was thinking you were asking about really distant objects such as other galaxies. Since the distance from Earth to Sun is not changing, neither is the light travel time.

if the time is constant then how the speed of light is constant?

First off, all speed is relative to something so you need to be careful how you think about things in relative motion.

Suppose you have a set of three cars. the first car is moving South at 10 mph and the second is moving North at 10mph. Now the third car starts moving North at 20 mph and just keeps going at 20mph. The first and second cars start speeding up and slowing down. Why would you think that has any effect on the speed of the 3rd car? [all those speeds, by the way, are implied as being relative to the ground, which is taken as the frame of reference]
 
i am very sorry for disturbing you with my stupid question. what do you mean by the expansion of universe?
 
Swetha.M.L said:
i am very sorry for disturbing you with my stupid question. what do you mean by the expansion of universe?
You would really be better off reading some basic cosmology instead of asking random questions on an internet forum. The expansion of the universe is one of the first things you will learn about.
 
Here might be a good place to start.



Leonard Susskind is well respected physicist. You can consider him credible. Also, the way he presents cosmology here, the math is kept as simple as is possible considering the subject.
 

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