Does Using Celsius Instead of Kelvin Affect Thermal Expansion Calculations?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of using Celsius versus Kelvin in the context of thermal expansion calculations, specifically regarding the equation dL = aLdT. The original poster questions whether measuring temperature in Celsius instead of Kelvin affects the results of their experiment.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between temperature scales and their impact on calculations involving changes in temperature. Some express uncertainty about the significance of using Celsius versus Kelvin, while others suggest that for changes in temperature, the difference is negligible.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in a productive dialogue, with some confirming that the difference in temperature scales does not affect the calculation of changes in length due to thermal expansion. There is an acknowledgment that the error in measurements will proportionally affect the results, but no consensus has been reached on the broader implications.

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The original poster is preparing for an experiment and is considering the implications of temperature measurement methods. There is mention of potential reading errors in temperature measurements, which could influence the overall calculations.

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Homework Statement


Usually when temperatures are written as "T", they are given in kelvins and when written in "t" they are given in celsius. The equation dL = aLdT used T for temperature yet, in the experiment temperature is measured as celsius. Is there any difference? Why?


Homework Equations


dL = aLdT

where a is coefficient of Linear Expression


The Attempt at a Solution



This is just an experiment preparatory question. I was not sure about this but my answer would be that there is no large difference as we all know the equation:

Kelvins = Celsius + 273

Although since there is always a reading error with even temperature then the conversion would also accompany a calculated error. Although I am unsure. Could someone direct me to the right direction or just confirm that I am correct?
 
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I wouldn't rely on t vs T - it's not necessarily widespread.

If you are talking about changes in temperature it doesn't matter. Similairly any equations involving simply adding or subtracting a temperature works for celsius or kelvin. It's fairly easy to show this with some algebra.

I'm not sure what question you are asking.
The error in the change in length will be the same percentage as the error in the measurement of temperature. It's easy to show this by calculating the answer for a particlular dT and then for dT+(some small increment) and comparing the dL.
 
Well I have to do an experiment, and in the experiment I will measure temperature using a thermometer in celsius. Now since the equation at the top though uses Kelvins for temperature and not celsius, does it make any difference in measuring with celsius and not kelvins?

From your answer, I understood that since we are taking the difference there is no problem.
I seem to have forgotten that little point somehow, I believe that would be a good enough answer seeing as the difference in kelvins or celsius would be the same.
 
Correct it's very easy to prove, imagine making a cup of coffee!

t1 = 17C = (273 + 17) K
t2 = 100C = (273 +100) K

dT = t2-t1 = (273 + 100) - (273+17) = (273-273) + (100-17) = 83
So it really doesn't matter about the 273!
 
Thank you for the help mgb.
 

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