Does v1(x,t) converge for x=0?

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The discussion revolves around a heat equation problem in an applied math context, specifically examining the convergence of a solution expressed as a series involving sine and cosine functions. The original poster expresses concern about the validity of their solution, questioning its behavior as it approaches specific values.

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the convergence of their solution for fixed values of x and t, noting an apparent divergence. Some participants suggest that the presence of infinitely many modes is typical in such problems, particularly in physical contexts.

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Participants are exploring the implications of the original poster's findings, with some expressing that the observed behavior may not be problematic. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions and conditions surrounding the solution, but no consensus has been reached regarding the original poster's concerns.

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The problem is framed within the constraints of boundary conditions and initial conditions typical of heat equation scenarios, with specific attention to the behavior at the boundaries of the defined domain.

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Homework Statement



Currently working on a heat equation problem for an applied math class. I got a solution

v(x,t) = Ʃn≥1(2/n∏)sin(n∏x)cos(n∏ct), x ε [0,1], t≥0,


which seems wrong since, for any fixed x and t, v(x,t)=∞.

Homework Equations



Governing equation is utt=c2uxx, where c is the speed of sound and u(x,t) is the longitudinal pressure distribution along a tube that is open at x=0 and has a rigid surface at x=1. The boundary condition at x=0 is u(0,t)=g(t)=cos(ωt) where ω is the frequency of the emitted sound. On the other hand, the rigid surface at x=1 implies a vanishing pressure at that point, and thus the boundary condition u(1,t)=0. Assume the initial conditions of utt=c2uxx are both zero.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm supposed to "Use the transformation u(x,t) = v(x,t) + ψ(x)g(t) to homogenize the boundary conditions by enforcing linearity on ψ." Then I'm supposed to "Solve for the homogeneous solution v1(x,t) of the transformed equation."

I've checked over my work several times and I keep getting

v1(x,t) = Ʃn≥1(2/n∏)sin(n∏x)cos(n∏ct),

what has to be wrong.

Thoughts? Concerns?
 
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I don't think that's a problem at all. You see, the solution you have there is a superposition of all possible solutions, and since you don't have a momentum cutoff in your system, there are infinitely many modes that can live in your system in the ultraviolet (short wavelength) limit. This is quite typical for physical problems, especially in quantum field theory, where most of your time gets spent on trying to talk these infinities down.
 
Cool!
 
I have a question on my next homework problem. The setup is:

utt = uxx
u(0,t)=0
ut(x,0)=0
u(x,0)=xe-x2.

I used separation of variables u(x,t)=X(x)T(t), so that we have XT'' = X''T = k. In the case of k > 0 and k = 0, when I attempted to solve for u I reached an inconsistency with u(x,0)=xe-x2. In the case where k = -λ2 < 0, I have found it impossible to determine the eigenvalue λ. We have X(x) = Asin(λx) + Bcos(λx) and T(t) = Csin(λt) + Dcos(λt). Since ut(x,0) = 0, we need T'(0) = -λC = 0 if we want a nontrivial solution; hence u(x,t) = [Asin(λx) + Bcos(λx)]cos(λt). Then u(0,t) = Bcos(λx)cos(λt) = 0 implies B = 0; hence u(x,t) = Asin(λx)cos(λt). The last thing we could use would be u(0,t) = 0, but this gives us no information.

What can I do?
 
You need to use the full solution - you certainly can't have u = x*exp(-x^2) with just one sine and cosine term!
[tex]X(x) = \sum_\lambda A_{\lambda} \sin(\lambda x)[/tex]
[tex]T(t) = \sum_\lambda D_{\lambda} \cos(\lambda t)[/tex]

A Fourier series of x*exp(-x^2) might be useful next!
 
Jamin2112 said:

Homework Statement



Currently working on a heat equation problem for an applied math class. I got a solution

v(x,t) = Ʃn≥1(2/n∏)sin(n∏x)cos(n∏ct), x ε [0,1], t≥0,


which seems wrong since, for any fixed x and t, v(x,t)=∞.

It is quite obvious that this does converge for x= 0.

Homework Equations



Governing equation is utt=c2uxx, where c is the speed of sound and u(x,t) is the longitudinal pressure distribution along a tube that is open at x=0 and has a rigid surface at x=1. The boundary condition at x=0 is u(0,t)=g(t)=cos(ωt) where ω is the frequency of the emitted sound. On the other hand, the rigid surface at x=1 implies a vanishing pressure at that point, and thus the boundary condition u(1,t)=0. Assume the initial conditions of utt=c2uxx are both zero.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm supposed to "Use the transformation u(x,t) = v(x,t) + ψ(x)g(t) to homogenize the boundary conditions by enforcing linearity on ψ." Then I'm supposed to "Solve for the homogeneous solution v1(x,t) of the transformed equation."

I've checked over my work several times and I keep getting

v1(x,t) = Ʃn≥1(2/n∏)sin(n∏x)cos(n∏ct),

what has to be wrong.

Thoughts? Concerns?
 

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