Doing well in graduate physics courses

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by a first-year graduate student in quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to exam performance compared to peers. Participants share their experiences and offer advice on studying strategies, grading concerns, and the implications of academic performance for future research careers.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses difficulty in quantum mechanics exams, scoring below the median despite performing well in other subjects.
  • Some participants suggest analyzing mistakes made on exams and homework to identify areas for improvement.
  • One participant questions the importance of excelling in these classes if the student intends to pursue research, suggesting that understanding may take time.
  • Another participant emphasizes the variability of academic performance, noting that being below average is a common experience in competitive environments.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of grading on a curve, suggesting that improvements may not lead to better relative performance if peers also improve.
  • The original poster mentions the requirement to maintain a B+ average in core courses, indicating pressure to perform well in future assessments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement on the challenges of graduate coursework while also presenting differing views on the significance of exam performance and strategies for improvement. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to address the original poster's concerns.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of understanding specific mistakes and the potential impact of grading curves, but there are no settled conclusions on the best strategies for improvement or the implications of current performance levels.

Who May Find This Useful

Graduate students facing similar challenges in physics courses, educators seeking insight into student experiences, and individuals interested in academic performance dynamics in competitive environments.

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Hey everyone,

I am currently a first-year grad student, and I'm having a little bit of trouble in quantum mechanics. I'm doing alright in E&M and Stat Mech. but on the quantum mechanics exams, I'm usually scoring about 10-15 points below the median. To study, I first make sure that I'm thorough with the concepts, then I work through extra problems that weren't assigned for homework, but I still don't seem to be prepared enough for the tests. The professor I have is known for being tough, but if I'm behind the majority of the class, there must be something that I'm not doing right. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.
 
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Have you carefully analyzed where you have made mistakes on your exams, homeworks, etc?
 
An important question to ask is if you want to eventually do research for a career. If so, doing well in these classes is not really that important.

Note that you will have the rest of your career to catch up on these subjects.

General advice is to just ask as many questions about the the homework as you can until your time has ran out, and then just take the the exam and hope for the best. This is probably what you would do in actual research anyway, except in real life research there's not usually such an unrealistic deadline for understanding something as an exam
 
@ Jorriss:

Yes, I usually do pretty well on the homeworks, but if I lose points on an exam, I can understand why I lost points after looking at it a second time.
 
nsatya said:
@ Jorriss:

Yes, I usually do pretty well on the homeworks, but if I lose points on an exam, I can understand why I lost points after looking at it a second time.

What kind of things have you been losing points on?
If you understand WHY you've lost points then you can at least start focusing on making sure you don't make the same kinds of mistakes
 
nsatya said:
I'm doing alright in E&M and Stat Mech. but on the quantum mechanics exams, I'm usually scoring about 10-15 points below the median.

How bad is that? If that gets you a B, and you are doing decent in your other classes, then I wouldn't worry too much about it.

The professor I have is known for being tough, but if I'm behind the majority of the class, there must be something that I'm not doing right. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Maybe they are just better than you. Seriously.

One thing that happens with academia is that if you end up in the top of the class, you just get bumped to a higher level, and eventually you will end up below average. Someone has to below average, and maybe this time its your turn.

The first thing that I'd find out is how bad it is. If you are 40th percentile, you are getting a B, and the prof doesn't think that you are in deep trouble, I wouldn't worry too much about this. If you are 10th percentile and you are overwhelmed, then I'd worry.
 
genericusrnme said:
What kind of things have you been losing points on?
If you understand WHY you've lost points then you can at least start focusing on making sure you don't make the same kinds of mistakes

But the beauty of grading on the curve is that this may not help you. It may be the situation that you fix your problems, but everyone else is also, so you end up running in place.
 
twofish-quant said:
How bad is that? If that gets you a B, and you are doing decent in your other classes, then I wouldn't worry too much about it.



Maybe they are just better than you. Seriously.

One thing that happens with academia is that if you end up in the top of the class, you just get bumped to a higher level, and eventually you will end up below average. Someone has to below average, and maybe this time its your turn.

The first thing that I'd find out is how bad it is. If you are 40th percentile, you are getting a B, and the prof doesn't think that you are in deep trouble, I wouldn't worry too much about this. If you are 10th percentile and you are overwhelmed, then I'd worry.


Yes, I'm getting a B in the class, but we have to maintain a B+ average in all our core courses. I have a B+ average now, but I just have to get at least all B+'s in my core courses next quarter. Worst case scenario, I'll end up retaking the class next year.
 

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