Dominant Feynman diagram for ##b \to s ~l^+ l^−##

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the dominant Feynman diagram for the decay process ##b \to s ~l^+ l^-##, comparing two proposed diagrams and exploring the reasons for the dominance of one over the other. The scope includes theoretical considerations in quantum field theory (QFT).

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant references a QFT book stating that a specific Feynman diagram (1) is the dominant diagram for the decay process.
  • Another participant questions the assumption that the loop contains top quarks.
  • A participant explains that the matrix element ##\mathcal{M}## is proportional to the CKM matrix elements, suggesting that the choice of ##V_{tb} V_{ts}## is preferable due to its proportionality to the mass of the quark involved.
  • Another participant raises a point about whether individual flavors within the loop should be added together.
  • A participant responds by clarifying that the coupling involves a specific quark flavor due to the presence of a delta function in the vertex coupling.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the dominance of the Feynman diagrams and the assumptions about the quark flavors involved. There is no consensus on the reasons for the dominance of diagram (1) over diagram (2).

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the contributions of different quark flavors and the implications of the CKM matrix elements in the context of the decay process.

Safinaz
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Hi all,

It's written in QFT books, see for instance George_W._S. book "Flavor Physics and the TeV Scale" that the following Feynman diagram (1)
1.png


is the dominant Feynman diagram for ## b \to s ~l^+l^− ## decay. Actually I compare this diagram via another possible diagram (2)

2.png


Both (1) and (2) are proportional to## G_F^2##, so they are on equal coupling order, also (1) proportional to

\begin{align}
\Big(\frac{1}{k\!\!/ - m_t}\Big)^2 ~ \frac{1}{k^2 - m_w^2},
\end{align}

while (2) proportional to

\begin{align}
\frac{1}{k\!\!/ - m_t} ~ \Big(\frac{1}{k^2 - m_w^2}\Big)^2 ,
\end{align}

I mean (1) has two heavy propagtors in the loop, while (2) has only one heavy propagator, so for the first sight, it seems (2) is the dominant diagram, but this is not the fact .. so anyone can explain why (1) is dominant one ?
 

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Why do you assume the loop contains top quarks?
 
because ## \mathcal {M} \propto V_{ib} V_{is} ##, so in the best cases the ##V_{CKM}## matrix elements are ## V_{tb} V_{ts}## or ##V_{cb} V_{cs}## . the first choice is the best because ## \mathcal {M} ## also proportional to ## m_i ##
 
aren't you supposed to add them (each individual flavor within the loop)?
 
Hi,

If you asking about ##Z u_b \bar{u }_c## vertex, there is ##\delta_{bc} ##, i.e., Z couples to the same quark flavor.
 

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