Don't understand convergence as n approaches infinity

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The discussion revolves around the limit of the expression [(1+(.05/n))^20n -1]/[.05/n] as n approaches infinity. Participants are exploring the convergence behavior of this limit, referencing a calculus textbook by Dr. Gilbert Strang and discussing the implications of the numerator and denominator in the limit process.

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Main Points Raised

  • Mathguy expresses confusion about the limit, noting that the numerator appears to be a constant while the denominator approaches zero as n approaches infinity.
  • Another participant suggests that the limit represents an indeterminate form of type "(1^(infinity) - 1)/0" and questions whether the numerator truly converges to a nonzero constant.
  • A different participant asserts that the numerator converges to e^[(.05)(20)] - 1, implying it is a constant in the limit.
  • One participant questions the accuracy of the textbook reference, suggesting a possible typo and providing an alternative interpretation of the limit's behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the limit's behavior, with some asserting it converges to a constant while others argue it may lead to an indeterminate form. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are potential limitations in the assumptions made about the behavior of the numerator and the application of l'Hopital's Rule, as well as the dependence on the specific form of the limit.

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Here's the deal...

I don't understand the limit as n→∞ of [(1+(.05/n))^20n -1]/[.05/n] My Calculus book says that it's supposed to approach {e^[(.05)(20)]-1}/[.05], but the numerator is a constant while the denominator goes to 0 as n→∞. The textbook, by Dr. Gilbert Strang, has similar limits, and its not in the selected errata, so I doubt it was just some error, can someone help me? Just about any light anyone could shed on this would be helpful :]

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This looks like an indeterminate form of the type "(1^(infinity) - 1)/0", from which it is not clear whether it converges or not. You cannot be sure that it is a nonzero constant over 0, as it might be that the numerator's limit is actually 0 (and you'd get a 0/0 form).

To find this limit, you can't use direct substitution, you must use something like l'Hopital's Rule, probably twice or more (some algebraic manipulations might be required before applying l'Hopital's Rule).
 
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But the numerator is (1+(.05/n))^20n)-1, which is e^[(.05)(20)]-1=e-1 in the limit, so it has to be a constant (unless I missed something here. I just want to understand it D:)
 
That looks like a typo, what page of what edition is that on?
[(1+(.05/n))^(20n) -1]/[.05]->{e^[(.05)(20)]-1}/[.05]=20(e-1)
[(1+(.05/n))^(20n) -1]/[.05/n]->infinity
 

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