Doppler Effect: How Does the Ambulance Siren Vary?

In summary, the conversation revolves around the Doppler effect and its application in scenarios involving sound sources in motion. The equation for the observed frequency of sound when the source is traveling towards the observer is discussed and compared to the example of an approaching ambulance. The effect of acceleration on the observed frequency is also brought up, using the example of Kamikaze pilots heading towards a US battleship. The conversation ends with a discussion on the use of ethnic slurs in different cultures.
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http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/sound_doppler_equations.htm

Read 'Source Moving at an Angle' section.
 
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xxChrisxx said:
Turv, you're wrong mate. If a constant speed (anything) heads DIRECTLY towards you you won't hear a pitch change. If it comes PAST to you, you will.
You are correct, of course. Part of the problem here is sloppy language. When something comes directly toward you at constant speed, you will hear an unchanging, constant pitch which will be higher than the pitch of the source (and as given by the usual Doppler equations). If it goes past you, then you'll hear a changing pitch.

Turv said:
Chris,

I have just had a warning off a mentor which is totally unjustified, the doppler equation will work with constant velocity are you saying everything needs to accelerate to get the doppler effect, this would just be nonsense, if the mentors want (yes men) then why not ban everyone and have morons posting saying yes mentor 3 bags full mentor, yes your right mentor ( When they can't even post the equation in there defence) i posted the authentic doppler equation, is he wrong? YES MENTOR!
:rolleyes: Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough?
 
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Turv said:
xxChrisxx said:
ok, seeing as this came up on the f1 thread and was then rightly deleted.

Turv, you're wrong mate. If a constant speed (anything) heads DIRECTLY towards you you won't hear a pitch change. If it comes PAST to you, you will.

Even the shoddyness that is wiki has this on it.
Chris,

I have just had a warning off a mentor which is totally unjustified, the doppler equation will work with constant velocity are you saying everything needs to accelerate to get the doppler effect, this would just be nonsense, if the mentors want (yes men) then why not ban everyone and have morons posting saying yes mentor 3 bags full mentor, yes your right mentor ( When they can't even post the equation in there defence) i posted the authentic doppler equation, is he wrong? YES MENTOR!
Hold on! Don't get too excited!

When we talk of change, change relative to what?

When a car heads straight towards you, its frequency will have changed relative to what it would have been if it was stationary. But if you've never heard it stationary, you won't know that, you'll just hear a constant higher pitch. (If you did hear it when it was stationary, then you'd hear the pitch increase as it accelerated.) Then the car will hit you and you won't hear anything at all, because you'll be dead.
 

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