How Does the Doppler Effect Influence the Frequency of an Ambulance Siren?

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The discussion revolves around the Doppler Effect and its application to sound frequency changes as perceived by a passenger in a car when an ambulance with a siren approaches and moves away. The problem involves calculating the frequency heard by the passenger based on the relative speeds of the ambulance and the car, both when they are approaching and moving apart, as well as when they are traveling in the same direction.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Doppler Effect formula and the need to adjust speeds based on the direction of travel. There is mention of using a closing speed for when the vehicles approach and a separating speed for when they move apart. Some participants express confusion about how to apply the formula for different scenarios, particularly when the vehicles are moving in the same direction.

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Some participants have provided insights into the calculations and the speeds involved, while others are seeking clarification on the steps taken to arrive at specific frequency values. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, with no clear consensus yet on the best approach to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are converting speeds from miles per hour to meters per second to facilitate calculations. The original poster has expressed uncertainty about how to proceed with the second part of the problem, indicating a need for further guidance on the application of the Doppler Effect in different scenarios.

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So I'm having a hard time getting the second part of the problem, so could anyone help me

An ambulance travels down a highway at a speed of 65.0 mi/h, its siren emitting sound at a frequency of 4.10 102 Hz. Take the speed of sound in air to be v = 345 m/s. What frequency is heard by a passenger in a car traveling at 56.0 mi/h in the opposite direction as the car and ambulance

a)approach each other: 480.2 Hz
b)pass and move away from each other?: 370.7 Hz

Repeat this problem, but assume the ambulance and the car are going in the same direction, with the ambulance initially behind the car. The speeds and frequency of the siren are the same as in the example.
(a) Find the frequency heard before the ambulance passes the car.
(b) Find the frequency heard after the ambulance passes the car. [Note: The highway patrol subsequently gives the driver of the car a ticket for not pulling over for an emergency vehicle!]

So far I tried to do the same as the first part by changing the speed because I'm not exactly sure what to do.

The equation used is:
fO= fS(v + vO)/(v - vS)
 
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Lizziecupcake said:
So I'm having a hard time getting the second part of the problem, so could anyone help me

An ambulance travels down a highway at a speed of 65.0 mi/h, its siren emitting sound at a frequency of 4.10 102 Hz. Take the speed of sound in air to be v = 345 m/s. What frequency is heard by a passenger in a car traveling at 56.0 mi/h in the opposite direction as the car and ambulance

a)approach each other: 480.2 Hz
b)pass and move away from each other?: 370.7 Hz

Repeat this problem, but assume the ambulance and the car are going in the same direction, with the ambulance initially behind the car. The speeds and frequency of the siren are the same as in the example.
(a) Find the frequency heard before the ambulance passes the car.
(b) Find the frequency heard after the ambulance passes the car. [Note: The highway patrol subsequently gives the driver of the car a ticket for not pulling over for an emergency vehicle!]

So far I tried to do the same as the first part by changing the speed because I'm not exactly sure what to do.

The equation used is:
fO= fS(v + vO)/(v - vS)

No doubt you did the first part using a closing speed of 121 mi/h and a separating speed of 121 mi/h [ie 65 + 56]

With the vehicles travelleing in the same direction, the closing and opening speeds are just 9 mi/h [ie 65 - 56]
 
Can you clarify a bit more, I'm still confused. Also, I converted the speeds into m/s
 
Lizziecupcake said:
Can you clarify a bit more, I'm still confused. Also, I converted the speeds into m/s

Please show the full calculations for your 480.2 answer.
 

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