Dot Product Question: How to Solve (2a-5b)dot(b+3a) with Unit Vectors?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the expression (2a-5b)·(b+3a) given that 'a' and 'b' are unit vectors and |a+b| = √3. Participants are exploring the implications of the dot product and the properties of unit vectors in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to apply the properties of dot products and the given information about the magnitudes of vectors. There are questions about how to manipulate the expressions correctly and whether certain assumptions about the dot products are valid.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided partial evaluations and are discussing the relationships between the components of the vectors. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly substitute values and simplify the expressions, but no consensus has been reached on the final evaluation.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints that 'a' and 'b' are unit vectors, and they are trying to reconcile the given magnitude of |a+b| with the dot product results. There is some confusion about the interpretation of the expressions and the resulting values.

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I'm really at a loss here, if anyone could help me out I'd really appreciate it.


Given 'a' and 'b' unit vectors,

if |a+b| = root3, determine (2a-5b)dot(b+3a)
 
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|a + b|^2 = (a + b)[tex]\bullet[/tex](a + b)
and |a + b| = sqrt(3) ==> |a + b|^2 = 3

Now, use the fact that the dot product is associative, distributive, and commutative and the two equations above to see if you can evaluate (2a - 5b) )[tex]\bullet[/tex] (b + 3a).
 
well I end up getting 13ab + 6a^2 - 5b^2

The answer is -11/2

I just can't seem to figure out how to get there :s
 
Work with (a + b) [itex]\cdot[/itex] (a + b) = 3. You also know that a and b are unit vectors, which means that a [itex]\cdot[/itex] a = 1 and b [itex]\cdot[/itex] b = 1.
 
Would I do like

(a+b)dot(a+b)=3

1 + 2ab + 1 = 3

ab = 1/2

then sub 1/2 into the ab and then get 6.5 + 6a^2 - 5b^2 and solve from there?
 
Sort of, except that what you show as 6a^2 and -5b^2 is really 6a[itex]\cdot[/itex] a and -5b[itex]\cdot[/itex] b.
 

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