Double Integral of Pythagoras over rectangular region

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The discussion centers on calculating the average length of a line drawn from a point on the perimeter of a rectangle (A x B) to another point on one of the remaining sides, using the double integral \int_0^A \int_0^B \sqrt{x^2 + y^2} dy dx. Participants suggest using trigonometric substitution and polar coordinates to simplify the integral. Specifically, the substitution y = x tan(\theta) is recommended, leading to the integral x^2\int_0^{arctan(B/x)} sec^3(\theta)d\theta. Another approach involves splitting the region into two parts for integration.

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Take any given point on the perimeter of a (A x B) rectange and then draw a line from that point to another point on one of the three remaining sides of the rectangle. What is the average length of the line?
Well, the answer to that question involves integrals like this:

\int_0^A \int_0^B \sqrt{x^2 + y^2} dy dx

This thing gets a bit interesting given that it's basically a polar type integral but with rectangular boundaries. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Chris
 
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That looks like a fairly standard "trig substitution" integral. To integrate with respect to y initially, let y= x tan(\theta) so that \sqrt{x^2+ y^2}= \sqrt{x^2+ x^2tan^2(\theta)}= x\sqrt{1+ tan^2(\theta)}= x sec(\theta) while dy= x sec^2(\theta)d\theta. The first integral becomes \int_0^{arctan(B/x)} (x sec(\theta))(x sec^2(\theta)= x^2\int_0^{arctan(B/x)} sec^3(\theta)d\theta
 
ctchervenkov said:
Take any given point on the perimeter of a (A x B) rectange and then draw a line from that point to another point on one of the three remaining sides of the rectangle. What is the average length of the line?
Well, the answer to that question involves integrals like this:

\int_0^A \int_0^B \sqrt{x^2 + y^2} dy dx

This thing gets a bit interesting given that it's basically a polar type integral but with rectangular boundaries. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Chris

Hi ctchervenkov! Welcome to PF!

Polar works here. You will need to split the region into two.
$$\int_0^{\tan^{-1}\frac{B}{A}} \int_0^{\frac{A}{\cos\theta}} r^2\,dr\,d\theta+\int_{\tan^{-1}\frac{B}{A}}^{\pi/2} \int_{0}^{\frac{B}{\sin\theta}} r^2\,dr\,d\theta$$
Not sure if this can be simplified further.
 
to Pranav-Arora: I had tried that, but the things got a bit ugly...

to HallsofIvy: Had not tried that particular substitution I don't think. Thanks. Will see if that simplifies things...
 

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