Double Integrals Advice - Please

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the volume generated by the area bounded by the curves y = x^3 and y = x^(1/3) with the function z = x^2y. Participants are focused on determining the correct ranges for the variables x and y in the context of a double integral setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the ranges for x and y as 0 <= x <= 1 and 0 <= y <= [x^(1/3) - x^3], expressing uncertainty about the setup.
  • Another participant agrees on the x range but proposes that y should be between x^3 and x^(1/3), questioning the lower boundary of the volume.
  • There is confusion about the interpretation of the volume generation, with one participant asking for clarification on whether it is a volume of revolution and around which axis it is being revolved.
  • A later reply acknowledges the correction regarding the range for y and clarifies the volume generation as area multiplied by height, with height defined by z(x, y).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not fully agree on the correct ranges for the variables or the method of volume generation, indicating multiple competing views and some confusion about the setup.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the interpretation of the lower boundary for the volume and the specifics of how the volume is generated from the area in the x-y plane.

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Hi, I have a question and it asks me to evaluate the volume generated by the area bounded by y = x^3 and y = x^(1/3) and the function z = x^2.y

I'm just having a few problems with setting up the ranges of my variables x and y. I drew a sketch of the area in the x-y plane but I'm not sure what my ranges should be. My guess is: 0 <= x <= 1 and 0 <= y <= [x^(1/3) - x^3].

Help appreciated.
 
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As far as the xy-plane is concerned, yes, you can take 0< x< 1 and
x3< y< x1/3.

But I am concerned about the lower boundary. Apparently z= x2y is an upper boundary. What is the lower boundary?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
As far as the xy-plane is concerned, yes, you can take 0< x< 1 and
x3[/sub]< y< x1/3.

But I am concerned about the lower boundary. Apparently z= x2y is an upper boundary. What is the lower boundary?

Sorry, there seems to be confusion here, on my part at least.

1.) Your variable ranges are different to mine. Why is mine wrong, and why is yours right?

2.) What are you talking about, lower boundary? We have an area on the x-y plane and we revolve this to the function z = x^2.y to form a volume. Double Integral (x^2.y) dxdy using our variable ranges will evaluate this volume.
 
Look at your graph. for each point in the area, y is between the two curves: y is between x3 and x1/3. NOT between 0 and x1/3- x3.

You said in your first post that you wanted to find the volume of the region generated but didn't say HOW it was generated. I don't understand what you mean by "revolve this to the function z = x^2.y "

Is this a volume of revolution? If so, what axis are you revolving around?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Look at your graph. for each point in the area, y is between the two curves: y is between x3 and x1/3. NOT between 0 and x1/3- x3.

You said in your first post that you wanted to find the volume of the region generated but didn't say HOW it was generated. I don't understand what you mean by "revolve this to the function z = x^2.y "

Is this a volume of revolution? If so, what axis are you revolving around?
Thanks, I now understand why my range for y was wrong and yours is right. :)

Sorry, my unclear wording - You have an area in the x-y plane and the volume is generated as: area * height, where height = z(x, y). :. this area is projected in 3-D up to the function z(x, y) to form a volume under z(x, y) with the given x-y plane area as its base.
 

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