Double integrals + Change of variables

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral using a change of variables. Participants explore the process of determining the limits of integration after applying the transformation T(u,v) = (u, v/2) over the specified domain D = [0,1] x [0,1].

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding the limits of integration for the double integral and requests assistance.
  • Another participant questions whether the change of variables is mandatory, suggesting that the integral could be evaluated directly.
  • A participant confirms the requirement to use the change of variables for practice and mentions that some problems explicitly ask for this method.
  • There is a request for clarification on the integration of a specific function, indicating a related mathematical inquiry.
  • A participant proposes a substitution method and outlines how to transform the integral, while also emphasizing the need to determine the new limits of integration based on the boundaries of D.
  • One participant acknowledges a misunderstanding and expresses gratitude for the clarification provided by another participant.
  • A later post requests a non-graphing method to find the new limits, indicating ongoing uncertainty about the process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of the change of variables, and there are multiple viewpoints regarding the method of finding the limits of integration. The discussion remains unresolved with respect to the best approach to determine the new limits.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the transformation and the boundaries of the integration domain. The specific mathematical steps to derive the new limits are not fully resolved.

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Ok, i have a problem with this double integral. I am having a hard time finding the limits. The question is

Evaluate
[tex] \iint \frac{dx\,dy}{\sqrt{1+x+2y}}\[/tex]

D = [0,1] x [0,1], by setting T(u,v) = (u, v/2) and evaluating the integral over D*, where T(D*)=D

Can some one help me find the limits, and explain the process of getting those limits.

Thanks in advance
 
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Are you REQUIRED to do that change of variables?
You could integrate it directly..
 
Yes, because there are some problems which say evaluate the integral with change of variable but then check it by using an iterated integral. So the answer is yes, i have go use change of variable, and even though i don't need to use it was to get practice at it.

Thanks
 
anybody?
 
Rajvirnijjar said:
anybody?
Somebody is always here but not your wishing somebody.
Can you find the integration (to x variable) of 1/root(a+x) ?
 
I THINK what you are saying is that you want to use the substitution u= x, v= 2y.
Of course, du= dx and dv= 2dy or dy= (1/2)dv.

In terms of u and v, the integral becomes
[tex]\frac{1}{2}\int \frac{du\,dv}{\sqrt{1+u+v}}[/tex]

The only problem now is finding D*. The boundaries of D are x= 0, x= 1, y= 0, y= 1.
Okay, when x= 0 what is u? When x= 1, what is u? When y= 0, what is v? When y= 1, what is v? That gives you D* and the limits of integration.
 
Oh well, sorry for my bad English, I didn't read the whole OP and thought he didn't know how to solve it, but he should say the same as you did anyway, I know that for certain :biggrin:
 
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Thanks

I thought about the problem a little harder and i did the same exact thing you did, so thanks for your help.
 
What is the non-graphing method to find the new limits ? Someone please,,,,,...!
 

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