Double major physics and russian?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the consideration of adding a Russian major alongside a physics major, particularly focusing on the relevance of a Russian degree for graduate school in physics and potential career opportunities, including roles at NASA and intelligence agencies. The conversation touches on language proficiency, the value of formal education in a language one already speaks, and the job market for Russian speakers in various fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the value of a Russian degree for someone who is already fluent, suggesting that the degree may not add significant value beyond formal recognition.
  • Another participant proposes that having a degree in Russian could be beneficial for jobs with the CIA or NSA, although they note that this advantage may be less pronounced than in previous decades.
  • A different participant argues that NASA likely does not need additional Russian speakers, as they already employ many native speakers, and reflects on their own experience of studying Russian without finding it useful in their career.
  • Another reply emphasizes that while NASA may not have a high demand for Russian speakers, there is a significant need for foreign-language speakers at the NSA, particularly in the context of intelligence analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the utility of a Russian degree for someone already fluent, with some arguing it may not be worth the investment, while others see potential benefits in specific career paths. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall value of the degree in relation to career opportunities.

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Participants' views are influenced by personal experiences and perceptions of job market needs, which may not reflect broader trends or requirements in the fields discussed.

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Right now I am a freshman studying physics and considering adding russian as a second major. I already speak it pretty fluently, so the only challenging part would be the required literature classes. With a goal of going to grad school in physics, will a russian degree even matter, or would my language skills alone give the same benefits?

Also, on an unrelated note, does NASA have any need for russian speaking U.S. citizens other than translators?
 
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Right now I am a freshman studying physics and considering adding russian as a second major. I already speak pretty fluently, so the only challenging part would be the required literature classes.
If you already speak Russian fluently I fail to see what the degree would add to your skill set other then saying "I have a degree in Russian." Seems like a waste of money and time to me you'd be better off learning something you don't already know.
 
Do you want a job with the CIA/NSA? Being accredited in Russian would be a leg-up, IMO, although less so than during the 60s.
 
No, it's not going to help you. NASA has plenty of native Russian speakers working there already. When I worked at a NASA center, I had Russian native speakers in offices on both sides of me. I studied Russian in college, and while it was interesting, I didn't bother with the minor because I didn't think it would really come in useful. It hasn't; I wish I had taken Spanish or German instead, those would have been useful.
 
Did you mean NSA? It's not likely that NASA would have a high demand for Russian speakers, IMO. The chatter in major languages collected by the NSA needs lots of foreign-language speakers, though. I think we have seen this weakness in the failure to recruit enough skilled interpreters in Middle East languages before the run-up to Iraq and Afghanistan.

When you have VERY big ears and lots of computing/storage ability, you also need lots of skilled analysts to sort through all the chaff.
 

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