Dr. Tom Cruise says no to psychiatry

[Pengwuino]

Aww i thought this thread would just turn into a tom cruise bashing thread where we all took an oath not to watch War of the Worlds because they probably screwed up the storyline..

 

[Lisa!]

First,he claimed that Scientology cuted him of his dylexia and I think he'll say we don't need any Medicine at all in the future.
I don't think he says these coz of his new film or money.You know him.he's the person he wants his dates to accept scientology first like the new case, Katie Holmes.but anyway he shouldn't interfere to what he doesn't have any knowledge about it.
who knows maybe what he's saying proves by scientists one day but anyway he shouldn't claim his nonsenses in public!

 

[Pengwuino]

Yah, let him think what he wants but don't try to publicize it. I mean if we publicized every idiots 5 days of reading a book as an expert opinion, the public would think that taiwain, in collaboration with martians and Area 51, are creating global warming in order to boost EA Games sales.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Did you read the transcript?

Yup.

He really wasn't talking about when people are misdiagnosed or improperly prescribed medications they don't need, he was trying to say they are always bad and nobody needs them, that everything can be treated with exercise and changes in diet and things like that.

Yeah, he made a blanket statement about something that is very much more complicated.

This is why I think they now should bring in a real expert and discuss not only what some of these drugs treat and why they are good, but also address the misdiagnosis issue and the legitimate risks in a responsible way, not just dismissing the entire field in one fell swoop.

What I was trying to say before is that you can't have an expert in psychiatry go on TV and be really frank and honest without revealing what a tenuous, jury-rigged, trial-and-error thing it actually is.

Alot of people are helped by meds, which is enough reason to take them. If we look behind the scenes into the trial and error period of diagnosis and prescription, where people are often made worse by the wrong med as the doctor tries to figure out the right one, psychiatry isn't going to look so good to the general public.

Both sides of that story, the good and the bad of the drugs, are important for the public to be aware of,

I think you don't realize how bad the bad is, or you wouldn't be suggesting it be publicized to squelch Tom Cruise.

but nothing in what Cruise said or how he said it was a responsible way to educate the public about the real issues surrounding psychiatry.

Psychiatric drugs are some people's only relief from some very severe symptoms, and he shouldn't be reccomending no one take them under any circumstances.

The fact is, though, I don't think anyone in particular is going to be swayed by a couple minutes of Tom Cruise, actor, throwing out a few not very coherent anti-medication remarks on daytime TV. Having someone come on to rebut what he said makes it seem he was someone whose opinion mattered in the first place.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Aww i thought this thread would just turn into a tom cruise bashing thread where we all took an oath not to watch War of the Worlds because they probably screwed up the storyline..

Actually, I think he's a terrific actor. I really enjoyed him as the sociopathic hit man in Collateral. I also liked Minority Report and Vanilla Sky. I'll probably watch WOTW when it gets to DVD.

 

[rachmaninoff]

I don't think anyone in particular is going to be swayed by a couple minutes of Tom Cruise, actor, throwing out a few not very coherent anti-medication remarks on daytime TV.

Coherent? TV? Audiences? Tom Cruise?

 

[zoobyshoe]

Yah, let him think what he wants but don't try to publicize it.

I think his criticism of Brook Shields was something he should have kept to himself.

 

[Kakarot]

check this out http://tcruiseko.ytmnd.com/

 

[saltydog]

What, Cruise is into Scientology? And Katie is learning it? Oh wonderful. What, "oh baby I'll learn it for you". Maybe I just don't have all the story cus' I'm not that interested in their business but why am I not supprised if that's the case she's doing it? Women. What won't they do for their man?

Oh yea, I hate to be one sided:

If the roles were reversed: Let's see, Cruise is a dog like most men (me too): He'd learn enough just to get laid, after that . . . now, what was I talking about?

 

[saltydog]

Ok, I'm sorry for bashing Cruise and I got the gist of the story now from an on-line article on the net:

"Both Hubbard (L. Ron), and Crowley are avowedly anti-psychiatry. "Official psychoanalysis is therefore committed to upholding a fraud... psychoanalysts have misinterpreted life, and announced the absurdity that every human being is essentially an anti-social, criminal, and insane animal" (8) (Crowley). Hubbard considered that psychiatry controlled most of society and was struggling to create their own 1984 world. (9)"

That's why Cruise is against it. End of story.

 

[Kerrie]

Quite honestly, I couldn't find a true doctrine of what Scientology is and what their belief systems is, except that some alien named Xenu is a part of it. His loud opinions about what others choose to do with treating their own mental issues however is really none of his business. He needs to respect that others live and belief differently then he, just as he would expect others the same respect.

 

[Pengwuino]

What, Cruise is into Scientology? And Katie is learning it? Oh wonderful. What, "oh baby I'll learn it for you". Maybe I just don't have all the story cus' I'm not that interested in their business but why am I not supprised if that's the case she's doing it? Women. What won't they do for their man?

lol as a religious person, that's what pisses me off and makes religious people look bad. My cousin also got a girl who was SUPPOSEDLY so into him and in love and she said "oh yah! ill become catholic just for you! ill do it too!". Her boss later offered her a trip to hawaii and she broke up with my cousin to be with him lickidy split!

 

[The_Professional]

Matt: Tom, you seem so knowledgeable about this stuff. Where did you get your medical degree?

Tom: You don't understand psychiatry Matt. You're a glib. But to answer your question I have a degree from the Church of Scientology.

 

[Pengwuino]

lol your a glib, that's fantastic

"You see Matt, I've learned about psychology. I read 2 books on it"

 

[Moonbear]

lol your a glib, that's fantastic

"You see Matt, I've learned about psychology. I read 2 books on it"

"...and they were written by L. Ron Hubbard."