Draw the graph of arctan((x-1)/(x+1))

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The discussion centers on the graph of the function arctan((x-1)/(x+1), focusing on identifying vertical and horizontal asymptotes. Participants conclude that there is no vertical asymptote at x=-1, but rather a jump discontinuity, as the limit approaches ±π/2 from either side. The horizontal asymptote is confirmed to be y=π/4 as x approaches infinity. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the definitions of asymptotes in relation to the behavior of the arctan function.

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I am so far able to find the domain, intercepts, concavity and increase/decrease. But I am stuck at finding the asymptotes for the graph.

I think there is no vertical asymptote or is there one at x=-1?
I think the horizontal asymptote is y=pi/4
 
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kolua said:
I am so far able to find the domain, intercepts, concavity and increase/decrease. But I am stuck at finding the asymptotes for the graph.

I think there is no vertical asymptote or is there one at x=-1?
I think the horizontal asymptote is y=pi/4
##\frac{x - 1}{x + 1} = 1 - \frac{2}{x + 1}##
What happens to ##arctan(1 - \frac{2}{x + 1})## as x gets very large or very negative?
 
kolua said:
I think there is no vertical asymptote or is there one at x=-1?
I think the horizontal asymptote is y=pi/4
For the vertical asymptote, ask yourself this: can you take the arctan of an undefined value? When will ##\frac{x-1}{x+1}## be undefined?
 
Mark44 said:
##\frac{x - 1}{x + 1} = 1 - \frac{2}{x + 1}##
What happens to ##arctan(1 - \frac{2}{x + 1})## as x gets very large or very negative?
I think the limit of arctan((x-1)/(x+1)) as x approaches -1 from the right is pi/2 and as x approaches -1 from the left is -pi/2, which means there is no vertical asymptote here but a jump discontinuity here right?
 
Isaac0427 said:
For the vertical asymptote, ask yourself this: can you take the arctan of an undefined value? When will ##\frac{x-1}{x+1}## be undefined?
when x=-1 arctan is undefined but as x approaches x=-1 (x-1)/(x+1) approaches negative infinity and positive infinity from left and right. Let (x-1)/(x+1) = t, then arctan(t) approaches pi/2 and -pi/2 as t approaches the two infinity is this correct? then there is no vertical asymptote?
 
Mark44 said:
##\frac{x - 1}{x + 1} = 1 - \frac{2}{x + 1}##
What happens to ##arctan(1 - \frac{2}{x + 1})## as x gets very large or very negative?
is the horizontal asymptote correct? is there any other horizontal asymptote that I am missing? I got a graph like this, but I'm not sure if it is correct
 

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kolua said:
when x=-1 arctan is undefined but as x approaches x=-1 (x-1)/(x+1) approaches negative infinity and positive infinity from left and right.
I don't believe that is so. It is undefined at x=-1, but I don't believe that as x approaches -1 that the function approaches infinity with either sign.
kolua said:
then there is no vertical asymptote?
No, x=-1 is the vertical asymptote.
 
The graph is good.
 
Isaac0427 said:
No, x=-1 is the vertical asymptote.
That's not correct.
 
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Samy_A said:
That's not correct.
Ok, I am probably thinking of an incorrect definition of asymptote. The function does get infinitely close to but never reaches π/4 as x approaches -1. Does this not make it an asymptote?
 
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Isaac0427 said:
Ok, I am probably thinking of an incorrect definition of asymptote. The function does get infinitely close to but never reaches π/4 as x approaches -1. Does this not make it an asymptote?
x approaches infinity and function goes to pi/4 that's the definition of a horizontal asymptote, correct?
 
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kolua said:
x approaches infinity and function goes to pi/4 that's the definition of a horizontal asymptote, correct?
Yes that it definitely an asymptote. I'm just not sure about x=-1.
 
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Isaac0427 said:
Ok, I am probably thinking of an incorrect definition of asymptote. The function does get infinitely close to but never reaches π/4 as x approaches -1. Does this not make it an asymptote?
No. A function f has a vertical asymptote at x=a if ##\displaystyle\lim_{x\rightarrow a^+}f(x)=\pm \infty## or ##\displaystyle\lim_{x\rightarrow a^-}f(x)=\pm \infty##.
That's definitely not the case with an arctan.
 
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Samy_A said:
No. A function f has a vertical asymptote at x=a if ##\displaystyle\lim_{x\rightarrow a^+}f(x)=\pm \infty## or ##\displaystyle\lim_{x\rightarrow a^-}f(x)=\pm \infty##.
That's definitely not the case with an arctan.
Ok, my bad.
 
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Samy_A said:
No. A function f has a vertical asymptote at x=a if ##\displaystyle\lim_{x\rightarrow a^+}f(x)=\pm \infty## or ##\displaystyle\lim_{x\rightarrow a^-}f(x)=\pm \infty##.
That's definitely not the case with an arctan.
I'm not sure if the graph looks like that. Because the calculator gives a different image.
 

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kolua said:
I'm not sure if the graph looks like that. Because the calculator gives a different image.
That's the graph my calculator gives.
 
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kolua said:
I'm not sure if the graph looks like that. Because the calculator gives a different image.
You misunderstood me. I was answering @Isaac0427 's post concerning vertical asymptotes. The definition of a vertical asymptote makes it evident that your function doesn't have vertical asymptotes. At x=-1 it has a jump discontinuity, exactly as you wrote.
 
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I used Atan2, which takes the x and y values separately.
 
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The trickiest part is figuring out what happens as x → -1 from above and from below. It appears from your graph that you've already done that.

But " The function does get infinitely close to but never reaches π/4 as x approaches -1." is not true, because of a mistake in this statement. It's also important to consider the cases x < -1 and x > -1 separately when x → -1.
 
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