Drawing moon phases - what’s your opinion?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the methods of illustrating moon phases in educational settings, particularly focusing on the challenges of using different backgrounds (whiteboards vs. blackboards) and the conventions of shading the visible versus the non-visible parts of the moon. Participants share their experiences and preferences regarding teaching techniques and visual representations.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their method of shading the visible part of the moon on a whiteboard with dark markers, emphasizing the importance of marking what can be seen.
  • Another participant argues that students may be difficult for the sake of it, supporting the idea of drawing the visible part.
  • Some participants express that using a white background can be counterintuitive, complicating the understanding of moon phases.
  • Conversely, others believe that the convention of depicting what is observed remains clear regardless of the background color.
  • A suggestion is made to use a different colored marker to represent the light, proposing that red could symbolize white.
  • One participant humorously notes that if shading the unseen parts is necessary, then the entire board would need to be shaded for consistency.
  • Another participant proposes outlining the visible part of the moon while omitting the shadowed areas, referencing common practices in educational materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the best approach to illustrating moon phases, with no clear consensus reached. Some support the idea of shading the visible part, while others question the effectiveness of this method on a white background.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the limitations of using different backgrounds and the potential confusion that may arise from varying conventions in teaching. There is also mention of the subjective nature of visual representation in education.

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The lit part of the moon in the dark sky is white, of course. What do you do when teaching on a whiteboard? If I use a blackboard, shading (with white chalk) the part that is lit make sense. However, I am always teaching on a whiteboard and using white paper in class. Therefore, I shade (with dark markers) the part that is lit.

I always draw a dotted circle and then fill in the part I can see. So a new moon is just a dotted circle and a full moon is completely filled in (I can see it!). There’s something positively feel-good and reinforcing about marking what you can see rather than trying to shade what you can’t see.

What do you think? I have students that argue with me about this every now and then, but I’m stuck in my old habits. I make it very clear at the beginning of class what my convention is.

Recently, I’ve had second thoughts. What do you think? What do you do in your classes?
 
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I think the students are just being difficult for the sake of it. You draw the part you can see.
 
I think on white the picture is counterintuitive and can make the subject more difficult to grasp.
 
I don't think its counterintuitive at all. People mainly grow up with writing on white backgrounds (paper). If anything it is the blackboard that is counterintuitive. Personally I've never thought of either as counterintuitive since the picture depicts what you observe no matter what colour the background is or the ink that the picture is drawn with. You draw the light, not the absence of it. In art when people deliberately draw the 'negative' of an image you can tell the difference since it looks wrong compared to the convention.
 
IMHO on the white paper you draw shadows which are lack of light. You may draw additional contours to help grasp what is on the picture, but you don't draw the light (unless you are trying to explain how lenses are working :smile:).
 
Why don't you get another color marker, say a red one. Then red can be white and black can be black.
 
If you want to be shading the part you can't see, then for consistency you need to shade the whole damn board :)

Colouring in the bit you can see (as you've been doing) makes more sense to me.
 
Pretend everything I draw on this board is just a representative interpretation of what you have seen with your own eyes all your life, ok? If you need a refresher look outside tonight.

Then you can draw anything you want. ;)
 
Why not just outline the visible part omitting the remainder of what is in shadow? A below quarter moon draws as a crescent; a greater than quarter less than a full circle. That's the way they are often drawn in books as outlines.

Wikipedia Junior shows this.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Moon_symbol.ant.png

That just screams waxing moon to me.
 

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