Phases of the Moon: Amateur Questions Answered

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The discussion revolves around the phases of the Moon and why they do not appear to change significantly overnight. Participants explore the visibility of the Moon's phases, the effects of distance, and the perception of changes over short time spans.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the Moon's phases do not seem to change overnight, suggesting that the scale of a video may be misleading.
  • Another participant asserts that the phases progress roughly by 1/28th of the full cycle per day, indicating that changes do occur.
  • It is noted that the change in the Moon's phase is subtle and may require comparison through photographs or drawings taken at different times.
  • Some participants argue that changes can be observed over 24 hours, especially near a new moon, while visibility is limited around full moons.
  • A participant mentions that with a telescope, changes can be tracked over a couple of hours by observing lunar features.
  • Diurnal libration is introduced as a concept explaining why different views of the Moon can be seen as the Earth rotates.
  • Clarifications are made regarding whether the question pertains to seeing all phases in one day or noticing changes from night to night, with responses addressing both interpretations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the visibility of the Moon's phase changes overnight, with some asserting that changes are noticeable while others suggest they are too subtle to detect without careful observation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent of visibility and perception of these changes.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about visibility and observational techniques are not fully explored, and there may be limitations in understanding due to the scale of representations used in videos.

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amateur question.
referring to the following link
Lunar phase - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(particularly the video on the bottom right)
I understand what's going on except one thing, why don't the phases of the moon change overnight?
is it the scale of the video that is probably confusing me? It seems to me that over the course of a night you should be able to see more or less of the moon at different times.
Maybe you can, it's just that the difference is smaller than I would think because of the distance?
Thanks
 
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But they do change. They progress roughly by 1/28th of the full cycle per day.
The bottom-right animation might not be the best for visualising this. Try the top-right one. This one include a clock and a huge Moon face.
 
The change is simply to subtle to notice. You'd have to take a picture or make a drawing at the beginning of the night and compare it to another at the end. There is also the problem that unless the moon is full it is only visible for part of the night.
 
You can easily see the change in 24 hours, particularly when it is close to a new moon. Just look at the moon on successive evenings after a new moon.

As Drakkith said the moon is only visible for a long period round about full moon, and that is when the change in shape is least visible.

With a telescope you can see changes in a time span of one or two hours, by tracking the "sunrise" over the edge of craters or lunar mountains. See http://www.weasner.com/co/videos/Copernicus-051111.html
 
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Click on this this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libration
We can't see the far side of the moon since it is tidally locked, but this site explains why we can see about 59% of the moon's surface.
Perhaps what you are asking is that as the Earth rotates, we traverse a distance of one Earth diameter and should see a different view of the moon from one monrise to moonset. That is called diurnal libration.
 
Do you mean, "Why don't we see all of the phases in one day?" or "Why don't we see the phase change from night to night?"

The answer to the first is - because the Earth spins faster than the Moon orbits. We spin around and come back under the Moon, and it has changed in phase some, but only by the amount it has advanced in its orbit - about 1/28th of a circle.

The answer to the second is - We do. It's noticeable, but you have to be looking for it.
 
256bits said:
Perhaps what you are asking is that as the Earth rotates, we traverse a distance of one Earth diameter and should see a different view of the moon from one monrise to moonset. That is called diurnal libration.

Thanks!

everyone else, too.
 

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