Driven un-damped harmonic motion

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The problem involves a particle of mass 'm' subjected to a spring force and a driving force, with the goal of finding a particular solution for its motion in the context of driven un-damped harmonic motion. The original poster attempts to express the solution in a specific form involving amplitude and phase.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the equation and the substitution of derivatives into the inhomogeneous equation. There is an exploration of expressing the solution in the desired form and questioning whether the derived expressions for amplitude and phase are correct.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on expressing the constants A and B in terms of the driving force and angular frequencies. Multiple interpretations of the phase constant based on different cases are being explored, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on careful consideration of the phase and conditions under which the solution takes different forms, particularly regarding the relationship between the driving frequency and the natural frequency of the system.

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Homework Statement



A particle of mass 'm' is subject to a spring force, '-kx', and also a driving force, Fd*cos(wdt). But there is no damping force. Find the particular solution for x(t) by guessing x(t) = A*cos(wdt) + B*sin(wdt). If you write this in the form C*cos(wdt - [tex]\phi[/tex]), where C > 0, what are C and [tex]\phi[/tex]? Be careful about the phase (there are two cases to consider).

Homework Equations



basic inhomogeneous second-order equation solving.

The Attempt at a Solution



So I got the equation F = Fd*cos(wdt) - k*x = m*x'', and put it in the form x'' + w2*x = F*cos(wdt), where w2[tex]\equiv[/tex] k/m, and F [tex]\equiv[/tex] Fd/m. I took the first and second derivative of the equation they told us to use for our guess, and subbed them into x'' + w2*x = F*cos(wdt). I ended up with A(w2 - wd2)*cos(wdt) + B(w2 - wd2)*sin(wdt) = F*cos(wdt). I therefore deduced that F = A(w2 - wd2). Therefore the particular solution would be xp(t) = A(w2 - wd2)*cos(wdt). Is there anyway that this can somehow simplify for the form they want us to put it in, C*cos(wdt - [tex]\phi[/tex]), or did I do something wrong?
 
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You know F and have to express A and B in terms of F, wd and w.

ehild
 
ok, so then I get x(t) = [tex]\frac{F}{w^2-wd^2}[/tex]*cos(wd2*t) for the particular solution. I still can't figure out how this can take the form that is asked for.
 
KaiserBrandon said:
ok, so then I get x(t) = [tex]\frac{F}{w^2-wd^2}[/tex]*cos(wd2*t) for the particular solution. I still can't figure out how this can take the form that is asked for.

It is [tex]x(t) = \frac{F}{w^2-wd^2}*\cos{(w_d*t)}[/tex]

instead and has the desired form if w>wd.
[tex]C = {\frac{F}{|w^2-wd^2|}, \Phi =0[/tex]

In the opposite case

[tex]x(t) =- \frac{F}{|w^2-wd^2|}*\cos{(w_d*t)}[/tex]

you have to include a phase constant of pi:

[tex]C = {\frac{F}{|w^2-wd^2|}, \Phi =\pi[/tex]

[tex]x(t) =\frac{F}{|w^2-wd^2|}*\cos{(w_d*t+\pi)}[/tex]

ehild
 

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