Dual Flush Toilet Installation & Cleaning Issues

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the installation and performance issues of dual flush toilets, particularly focusing on their flushing capabilities for solid waste. Participants share personal experiences, concerns about cleanliness, and potential adjustments or solutions to improve functionality.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express dissatisfaction with the large flow flush, stating it is insufficient for cleaning the bowl after solid waste, leading to the need for multiple flushes.
  • Others mention that their experiences with dual flush toilets have been positive, with adequate performance for both flush modes.
  • One participant suggests that improper adjustment of the toilet could be a reason for inadequate flushing performance.
  • Another participant humorously suggests dietary changes as a potential solution to flushing issues.
  • Some participants discuss the prevalence of dual flush toilets in other countries, such as Australia and Israel, noting different experiences and expectations regarding their performance.
  • There are mentions of adjusting the toilet settings to improve water output, with some participants sharing their successful adjustments.
  • Several comments include humorous or sarcastic remarks about toilet technology and preferences, with references to potential future advancements in flushing technology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of dual flush toilets, with some expressing frustration over their performance while others report satisfactory experiences. Multiple competing views on the functionality and adjustment of these toilets remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the effectiveness of the flush may depend on factors such as toilet model, adjustment settings, and individual usage habits. There is also mention of cultural differences in toilet design and expectations.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering the installation of dual flush toilets, those experiencing issues with their current toilets, and anyone interested in discussions about plumbing technology and water conservation.

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We just had two dual flow toilets installed in our house. They have two modes of flush, a small flow flush for #1 and a somewhat larger flow for #2. The small flow is really good, it uses very little water compared to our old style toilets. However the large flow is insufficient to clean the bowl after #2, so we have to flush, clean, and flush again. I think even two large flow flushes use less water than the old single flush. However, it's troublesome and disgusting to have to keep cleaning it. I went on the net to find out what to do about it, but I couldn't find any countermeasures. Does anyone else have a dual flow? If so, how do you deal with the cleaning problem?
 
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I've only seen the dual flow when I travel to California for work since they seem to like to force their tree hugging ideas on everyone ;) (mostly joking). Their particular brand of flow for #2 was sufficient so I had no issues with it.
 
Jimmy Snyder said:
We just had two dual flow toilets installed in our house. They have two modes of flush, a small flow flush for #1 and a somewhat larger flow for #2. The small flow is really good, it uses very little water compared to our old style toilets. However the large flow is insufficient to clean the bowl after #2, so we have to flush, clean, and flush again. I think even two large flow flushes use less water than the old single flush. However, it's troublesome and disgusting to have to keep cleaning it. I went on the net to find out what to do about it, but I couldn't find any countermeasures. Does anyone else have a dual flow? If so, how do you deal with the cleaning problem?
Duals can get kind of stinky. Even if you give them a full flush and another, well, are3 you worse off?
 
Sending pictures to the manufacturer might have an effect.
 
Two possible problems:

1) It's not adjusted properly and not allowing enough water on the #2 flush.

2) You have a 1.6 gallon flush toilet - in which case you should still be able to adjust it to get somewhat better results.

I still have the 3.6 gallon flush toilet, so the dual flow flush works great and definitely saves water.
 
You could try a little more fiber in your diet.
 
Topher925 said:
You could try a little more fiber in your diet.

:smile::smile: Yer killin' me. :biggrin:
 
Its common in australia to have duel flush toilets. Actually I can bearly think of one house I've been to that has a single flush toilet.

You guys living in the past?
 
Can't you just adjust the settings? I just opened up the back of my (non dual flush) toilet and moved some screws around until the water output was satisfactory. You should contact the manufacturer to ask how it can be done.
 
  • #10
Blenton said:
Its common in australia to have duel flush toilets. Actually I can bearly think of one house I've been to that has a single flush toilet.

You guys living in the past?

If the toilets follow the CPU industry at all, you'll soon be saying that dual-flush toilets are obsolete and the standard is quad-flush.
 
  • #11
spb said:
If the toilets follow the CPU industry at all, you'll soon be saying that dual-flush toilets are obsolete and the standard is quad-flush.

Quad-flush is already becoming obsolete. AMD (Advanced Multiflush Devices) earlier this year released a series of toilets with hexa-flush technology.
 
  • #12
spb said:
If the toilets follow the CPU industry at all, you'll soon be saying that dual-flush toilets are obsolete and the standard is quad-flush.
I don't know how practical it is to apply what appears to be the razor-blade marketing program to toilets.
 
  • #13
turbo-1 said:
I don't know how practical it is to apply what appears to be the razor-blade marketing program to toilets.

For your average consumer, it might not be practical, and I'm sure a dual-flush toilet may be all they need for many years. But if you're really after performance you need to check out the benchmarks, and be able to make an informed decision. I know that many days, I wouldn't be able to get by in my line of eating without the latest and greatest.
 
  • #14
turbo-1 said:
I don't know how practical it is to apply what appears to be the razor-blade marketing program to toilets.

With a single tiny flusher on the back for detail flushing.
 
  • #15
Toto Toilets. Trust me.
 
  • #16
I spent ages adjusting mine. The small flush is now adequate for an average wee and will also deal with a small or very glossy poo (and will vanquish a ghostie). The big flush will shift all but the stickiest of turds, but I think that's a function of the bowl surface finish as much as hydraulic capability.
 
  • #17
i say just go swipe an antique toilet from some abandoned crack house
 
  • #18
Proton Soup said:
i say just go swipe an antique toilet from some abandoned crack house

Yeah, then put it in a ****ing kiln for a week to burn away the crackhead BLECH.

I think I'd rather buy a toilet in Canada.
 
  • #19
nismaratwork said:
Yeah, then put it in a ****ing kiln for a week to burn away the crackhead BLECH.

I think I'd rather buy a toilet in Canada.

Aaaah, such refined tastes...the finest Canadian comodes rock :!)!
 
  • #20
lisab said:
Aaaah, such refined tastes...the finest Canadian comodes rock :!)!

I believe that the time spent in the lavatory should be time well spent by god! :-p
 
  • #22
brewnog said:
I spent ages adjusting mine. The small flush is now adequate for an average wee and will also deal with a small or very glossy poo (and will vanquish a ghostie). The big flush will shift all but the stickiest of turds, but I think that's a function of the bowl surface finish as much as hydraulic capability.

Christ! there's an image I didn't want.
 
  • #23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrX3EmdKtRc
 
  • #24
BobG said:
Where were you when we needed the input of an expert?

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=217449

Folding obviously... what kind of barbarian crumples their sanitary tissues?? Beasts! Hottentots! HUNS! That time is meant for contemplation, and what better way than to neatly fold one's 550 thread-count ***-paper. :biggrin:

Chriss: Go to http://www.totousa.com/Products/h/ProductSearchResults/tabid/37/Default.aspx?SearchId=1811d326-750a-4ae2-8fad-b832f27dd5fe

See the clean porcelin and be cleansed. Toto is the way and the truth... come, let's eat sweet rice and poop perfect spheres you could use in LISA...
 
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  • #25
xxChrisxx said:
Christ! there's an image I didn't want.

Come round any time lad, it's adjusted perfectly now. It'll even clean up after the father-in-law after a Friday night special from Al Bilal's...
 
  • #26
Mine works fine, i just wish the water was warmer when i have a wee.
 
  • #27
wolram said:
Mine works fine, i just wish the water was warmer when i have a wee.

:smile::smile:
 
  • #28
wolram said:
Mine works fine, i just wish the water was warmer when i have a wee.
And shallower, too?
 
  • #29
In Israel, every single toilet is dual flush. I have noticed that the #1 setting just barely gets all the yellow out, but the #2 setting cleans out the brown just fine. Personally it does not bother me to leave a bit of yellow in there. But here we have a real shortage of water, so people used to the luxury of water might not be so stringent as us Arrakeen.
 
  • #30
dotancohen said:
In Israel, every single toilet is dual flush. I have noticed that the #1 setting just barely gets all the yellow out, but the #2 setting cleans out the brown just fine. Personally it does not bother me to leave a bit of yellow in there. But here we have a real shortage of water, so people used to the luxury of water might not be so stringent as us Arrakeen.

I'm sure all Israeli canines disagree with you.
 

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