Dubious choice in setting up Voice Access for my cellphone

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around concerns related to setting up Google Voice Access on Android phones, particularly regarding privacy and security implications. Participants explore the risks associated with granting full control to the app, the potential for unintended activations, and the broader issue of data leaks from medical services.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about allowing Voice Access full control due to sensitive information on their phone, questioning if their caution is justified.
  • Another participant highlights the risk of accidental activations of Voice Access from external voices, referencing incidents from media where devices activated unexpectedly.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the risk of data leaks from banking and personal information is more significant than the accidental activation of Voice Access.
  • One participant shares their personal approach to privacy, emphasizing extreme caution with personal information and avoiding phone usage for financial transactions.
  • Another participant recounts experiences of receiving spam messages following medical appointments, suggesting a potential breach of privacy by notification services.
  • Information is provided about reporting medical data breaches, including contact details for the FTC, indicating a concern for privacy violations in medical contexts.
  • A participant shares a similar experience of receiving unsolicited advertisements after medical visits, speculating that the notification service may be responsible rather than the medical provider.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on privacy and security, with some advocating for caution and others downplaying the risks. There is no consensus on the level of risk associated with Voice Access or data leaks from medical services.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions about privacy, the reliability of notification services, and the implications of sharing personal information, but these assumptions remain unresolved.

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"Allow Voice Access to have full control of your phone?" Um, really?
In attempting to set up the details for using (Google) Voice Access ("Hey, Google, open....") on my android phone, I get to a step (in Settings>Accessibility>Interaction and dexterity) in which I am asked "Allow Voice Access to have full control of your phone?" This sounds dangerous, but am I being overly paranoid? After all, I have my online banking app, my contacts, etc. that I wouldn't want Google to have control of....
 
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There is some risk that you should investigate where outside voices might say the wake word and their speech might be interpreted as a command to do something.

There were some incidents on TV and the movies where an actor said the wake word and the viewers phone woke up awaiting a command. One was during The Big Bang tv show where an actor said Siri and viewers phones activated.
 
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Thanks, jedishrufu, that's an interesting possibility. However, this sort of risk seems to me minimal in comparison to leaks (hacked or otherwise) of the bank, contact details and passwords which are on my phone. Is that a significant risk?
 
I'm sometimes accused of being overly-cautious about such things, but...

I don't have a cell phone; If I'm home I generally answer the landline; if not home I'm occupied.

No financial or medical transactions done thru the computer.

Financial and personally identifying papers are not tossed into the trash; they are either shredded or the really small stuff gets torn into tiny pieces and alternate pieces are flushed and trashed. (Too many night people going thru the garabge looking for recycleables.)

For sign-ups that want a phone number that field is left blank, or if potentially really useful, they get the Directory Assistance phone number (operator lookup, which charges a fee for every use). (This has cut the sales and begging calls by at least 90% - here in the States it takes about three months to take full effect. Many businesses sell the information to data brokers.)

Well, that's my approach - do what you are comfortable with.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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I'm not that cautious. However, I've noticed how my phone seems to get around. When I have an appointment with the ENT, they use an automated notification system to send texts to my phone.

Immediately thereafter, I started getting many random spam messages and phone calls, and I can only conclude that the service leaks them intentionally. That's a violation of the HIPPA law, but what can you do without solid proof?
 
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Questions About a Reporting a Breach?​

Email the FTC at Healthbreach@ftc.gov, or call us at (202) 326-2918.

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The form requires the person reporting the breach to provide certain information, including their name, contact phone number, and email address, as well as the name of their company and company address. The FTC may use this information to contact you to obtain additional information about the breach. The FTC Act and the Health Breach Notification Rule authorize the collection of this information. Do not include in your submission any personally identifiable information involved in the breach. To learn how we handle and safeguard your personal information, please read the FTC’s Privacy Policy and the Privacy Act system notices, to the extent they are applicable.

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Cheers,
Tom

p.s. Several years ago I had a few similar occurences with a nearby medical imaging outfit. Every time I had some imaging done there, a month or so later I would get phone calls selling something related; for instance an MRI of my spine triggered sales pitches for back braces. I now drive a few extra miles to another facility where, coincidently, the people are also much friendlier and professional.
 
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Yeah, after an ENT visit, I'd get some adverts for hearing aids. I don't think it was the business doing this but the notification service because the ENT business had its own hearing aid sales unit, so why would the ENT business compete with its competitors?

Thanks @Tom.G some good information to know.
 
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