Dx in a function to be intigrated

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The discussion revolves around the role of the differential element "dx" in the context of integration, particularly in the function f(x). Participants explore the necessity and implications of using "dx" in integrated functions, questioning how it relates to the variables in the function and the concept of area under a curve.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why "dx" is necessary in an integrated function and whether all instances of "x" should be replaced by "dx".
  • Another participant requests clarification and examples to better understand the initial question.
  • A participant suggests that in the function (sin x)/x, the integrated form should be (sin dx)/dx, proposing that this would yield results with infinite accuracy when summed.
  • In response, another participant asserts that "x" should not be replaced by "dx", explaining that "dx" represents a small increment in "x" and that the area is calculated as f(x) dx.
  • Further clarification is provided that the integral \int_a^b f(x) dx represents an operator that calculates the area under the curve by multiplying an infinitesimal length (dx) by the function's height (f(x)).
  • One participant acknowledges the explanation, indicating understanding.
  • Another participant reinforces the idea that this process results in infinite accuracy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the treatment of "x" and "dx" in integration. Some participants propose that "dx" should replace "x" in certain contexts, while others argue against this, leading to an unresolved discussion regarding the correct interpretation.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about the roles of "x" and "dx", as well as the definitions of the integral operator. The mathematical steps involved in the reasoning are not fully resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in calculus, particularly those exploring the concepts of integration and the interpretation of differential elements in mathematical functions.

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Suppose in an integrated function f(x), its a necessity to have dx, why is it that all x in that function is not replaced by dx?...or is it?
 
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Sorry but I really can't understand what you are trying to say? Could you illustrate it with some examples to show us what you mean?
 
I've seen this in many derivations.

Suppose the original function is (sin x)/x...and we're suppose to figure out the area.

So...the function to be integrated should be (sin dx)/dx...i.e replace all x with dx so they return results with infinite accuracy when the infinitely small sections are summed up.

But instead why do we take (sin dx)/x (I'm not sure if this is right, I've arbitrarily converted one of the x to dx).
 
You have it wrong, you don't replace any x's with dx's. Imagine moving your finger along the x-axis... x is the value of your finger is pointing to, f(x) is the value of the function at that point, and dx is a small increment in x. The small unit of area is thus f(x) dx, and you integrate f(x) dx.

Example: The area under the curve f(x) = sin(x) / x from 0 to 5 is
A=\int_0^5 \frac{\sin{x}}{x}dx
 
Humm...I see thanks!
 
\int_a^b f(x) dx is an operator in itself, but think of as taking an infinitesimal length on the independent axis (this is dx), and multiplying it by the height of some function f(x) so you get the area under the curve and then summing it up from a to b.
 
Yep...as a result infinite accuracy.
 

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