Dynamics and F=ma, where a is 0

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The problem involves a 24kg box on a rough slope inclined at 40°, moving downward at a constant velocity of 9.0 m/s. Participants are discussing the implications of the constant speed on acceleration and the forces acting on the box, particularly focusing on the frictional force.

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  • Participants suggest starting with a free-body diagram (FBD) to identify the forces acting on the box. There is discussion about the implications of constant speed leading to zero acceleration and the interpretation of forces involved, including the concept of "initial force."

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Some participants are encouraging the original poster to clarify their reasoning and explain their thought process more thoroughly. There is an ongoing exploration of the forces involved and how they relate to the box's motion, with no clear consensus yet on the best approach.

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The original poster mentions being new to physics and struggling with the concepts due to the teaching style. This context may influence the understanding of the problem and the discussion dynamics.

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Homework Statement



A 24kg box is placed on a rough slope. Determine the magnitude of the frictional force exerted by the slope on the box if the box is moving downward at a constant velocity of 9.0m/s. The slope incline is 40°

Homework Equations



F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



F = 24 x 0
a = 0 because speed is constant.
Resultant force = Initial force - frictional force
 
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What is that attempt? You seem to have learned things in way too hurry. First draw the FBD of the block. See what are the forces acting on it. How can it's acceleration be put to zero etc.,
 
Start with a free-body diagram. I encourage you to explain what you're doing instead of trying to make us guess what you reasoning is.
 
vela said:
Start with a free-body diagram. I encourage you to explain what you're doing instead of trying to make us guess what you reasoning is.

Well, as stated in the title, I used F=ma, so the working I came up with was F=24x0, with 24 being the mass of the box and 0 for the acceleration since the speed is constant.
 
vivekrai said:
What is that attempt? You seem to have learned things in way too hurry. First draw the FBD of the block. See what are the forces acting on it. How can it's acceleration be put to zero etc.,

Haha sorry, I'm still very new to Physics, as I'm only 13. Our teacher just started teaching us, but he's far from thorough so we're struggling...

For the FBD, I drew
1) weight acting vertically downwards
2) friction acting opposite the direction of motion
3) a force acting perpendicular to the incline of the slope
4) the direction of motion

Thanks for offering your help! :)
 
FaithAlyRose said:

The Attempt at a Solution



F = 24 x 0
a = 0 because speed is constant.
Resultant force = Initial force - frictional force
What do you mean by "initial force"?

FaithAlyRose said:
Well, as stated in the title, I used F=ma, so the working I came up with was F=24x0, with 24 being the mass of the box and 0 for the acceleration since the speed is constant.
I figured that's what you probably did, but it's better to hear you actually say it. Students can quite often come up with the correct answer for the wrong reasons.

FaithAlyRose said:
For the FBD, I drew
1) weight acting vertically downwards
2) friction acting opposite the direction of motion
3) a force acting perpendicular to the incline of the slope
4) the direction of motion
Choose a set of axes and resolve the forces into x and y components. Then set up two equations:
\begin{align*}
\sum F_x &= ma_x \\
\sum F_y &= ma_y
\end{align*} where, as you noted, you have ##a_x = a_y = 0## since the box moves at constant speed.
 

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