Dynamics in two dimensions problem

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The discussion revolves around a dynamics problem in two dimensions, specifically involving projectile motion and forces. Participants are analyzing the equations of motion and the application of Newton's second law to determine the force acting on an object.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of time using the vertical motion equation and the subsequent use of that time to find acceleration in the horizontal direction. There are questions about the interpretation of signs in the final force calculation and whether the magnitude or direction is being asked for in the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning each other's reasoning and clarifying the requirements of the problem. Some have offered insights into the significance of the negative sign in the context of direction versus magnitude.

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There is a focus on the interpretation of the problem's requirements, particularly regarding whether the answer should reflect magnitude alone or include direction. Participants are also considering the implications of their calculations on the final answer.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


xf = x0 + v0cos(θ)t + (1/2)axt2
yf = y0 + v0sinθt - (1/2)gt2
F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution


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I first tried to find the acceleration in the x direction so I could solve for the force
xf = x0 + v0cos(θ)t + (1/2)axt2

In order to find the time I used the equation for the y coordinate
yf = y0 + v0sinθt - (1/2)gt2

The initial and final y positions will both be zero so
0 = 0 + v0sin(θ) - (1/2)gt2
t = 2v0sin(θ)/ g = .702 sec

Then I plugged time back into the x equation

2.9 = v0cos(θ)(.702) + (1/2)a(.702)2
a = -2.23

Since I know the acceleration I can find the force by Newtons second law

F = ma

F = .015(-2.23) = -.033 N

It appears that I am a sign off from the correct answer
 

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0 = 0 + v0sin(θ) - (1/2)gt2 t = 2v0sin(θ)/ g = .702 sec

Don't you need to take the square root here?
 
BrainMan said:
F = .015(-2.23) = -.033 N

It appears that I am a sign off from the correct answer

What do you mean by "a sign off"?
 
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PeroK said:
What do you mean by "a sign off"?
The correct answer is 0.034 N so it looks like I'm getting the negative of the right answer.
 
BrainMan said:
The correct answer is 0.034 N so it looks like I'm getting the negative of the right answer.

And what does the question ask for?
 
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PeroK said:
And what does the question ask for?
Oh I see. Since it's asking for the magnitude it's just asking for the value and not the sign, right?
 
BrainMan said:
Oh I see. Since it's asking for the magnitude it's just asking for the value and not the sign, right?

Well, I would say it's asking for the magnitude! Which is always a positive number. The negative sign is actually a direction: opposite the direction of motion, in this case.

"Value" suggests magnitude and direction to me.
 
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