E=mc2: What is the Term for this Energy?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the equation E=mc², specifically questioning the nature of the energy denoted by E and whether it represents potential energy, maximum energy, or another form of energy. Participants explore concepts related to rest energy, kinetic energy, and the definitions of energy in the context of special relativity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether E=mc² represents the potential energy of a mass or its maximum energy.
  • Others argue that E represents the minimum energy of a mass when at rest, often referred to as "mass energy" or "rest energy."
  • One participant suggests using the symbol E₀ to denote rest energy, distinguishing it from total energy.
  • A technical explanation is provided regarding the energy-momentum vector and the relationship between rest energy, total energy, and kinetic energy in the context of special relativity.
  • There is a calculation presented regarding the kinetic energy of an object traveling at a fraction of the speed of light, suggesting it is approximately 1/200th of its rest energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the concept of rest energy as the minimum energy of a mass, but there are differing views on whether E=mc² can be considered maximum energy. The discussion includes multiple perspectives on the definitions and implications of energy in this context.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of energy and the context of motion are not fully explored, and the discussion relies on specific interpretations of energy in special relativity.

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Is E=mc2 the potential energy of a mass m? Is it the maximum energy such a mass can have? What is the correct term used to denote E in this context?

For example, if an object is traveling at 10% of the speed of light, could one say it has a kinetic energy of 0.5 x m x 0.1² = 1/200th of its "maximum energy"?
 
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Hi Keermalec, welcome to PF!
Keermalec said:
Is it the maximum energy such a mass can have?
Actually, it is the minimum energy. It is the energy that the mass has when it is at rest (or at least in a reference frame where its net momentum is 0).

Keermalec said:
What is the correct term used to denote E in this context?
I usually call it "mass energy" or "rest energy".

Keermalec said:
For example, if an object is traveling at 10% of the speed of light, could one say it has a kinetic energy of 0.5 x m x 0.1² = 1/200th of its "maximum energy"?
It would have a kinetic energy of (approximately) 1/200th of its rest energy. So its total energy would be 201/200th of its rest energy.
 
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I usually use the symbol ##E_0## for rest energy to distinguish it from total energy E: ##E_0 = mc^2##.
 
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For a massive classical particle the energy-momentum vector is
$$p^{\mu}=m \gamma \begin{pmatrix} c \\ \vec{v} \end{pmatrix} \quad \text{with} \quad \gamma=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\vec{v}^2/c^2}}.$$
The energy is
$$E=p^0 c=\frac{m c^2}{\sqrt{1-\vec{v}^2/c^2}}=c \sqrt{m^2 c^2+\vec{p}^2}.$$
Here, ##m##, is a Lorentz scalar, the socalled invariant mass of the particle. This is the notion of mass used almost exclusively in any modern textbook treating special relativity and in the physics community. The reason is that there is simply no need for another symbol for ##E/c^2##.

Sometimes one also introduces the rest energy, ##E_0=m c^2## and the kinetic energy (e.g., when talking about the beam energy of a particle accelerator in fixed-target experiment),
$$E_{\text{kin}}=E-E_0=c \sqrt{m^2c^2+\vec{p}^2}-m c^2.$$
 
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DaleSpam said:
Hi Keermalec, welcome to PF!
Actually, it is the minimum energy. It is the energy that the mass has when it is at rest (or at least in a reference frame where its net momentum is 0).

I usually call it "mass energy" or "rest energy".

It would have a kinetic energy of (approximately) 1/200th of its rest energy. So its total energy would be 201/200th of its rest energy.
DaleSpam said:
Hi Keermalec, welcome to PF!
Actually, it is the minimum energy. It is the energy that the mass has when it is at rest (or at least in a reference frame where its net momentum is 0).

I usually call it "mass energy" or "rest energy".

It would have a kinetic energy of (approximately) 1/200th of its rest energy. So its total energy would be 201/200th of its rest energy.
Thanks Dale, JTBell and Vanhees, that is exactly the answer I was looking for.
 

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