B Does E=mc^2 apply to gravitational potential energy?

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The discussion explores whether E=mc^2 applies to gravitational potential energy, particularly in the context of an object dropped from a tower. In classical mechanics, potential energy converts to kinetic energy without changing total energy, while in relativity, energy gain can imply mass increase, though this is a nuanced concept. The conversation emphasizes that relativistic mass is largely abandoned in favor of invariant mass, which does not change regardless of an object's energy state. The total energy of a system, including gravitational interactions, remains constant, but energy is frame-dependent, complicating measurements of mass during motion. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the need for clarity in definitions and understanding of energy in relativity.
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PeterDonis said:
Note that these energy levels are energy levels of bound states in a "potential well" created with a mirror. So measurements of these energy levels are not measurements of "gravitational time dilation" for neutrons. They are measurements of whether the gravitational potential works like any other potential in the Schrodinger equation to determine bound state energy levels.
Exactly, but wasn't this the point of the debate? Perhaps I don't understand, what the issue is here... Of course, I've not claimed that this has anything to do with time dilation. It's just a non-relativistic model after all.
 
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vanhees71 said:
wasn't this the point of the debate?

No. The poster I was responding to was claiming that that experiment was a measurement of gravitational time dilation for neutrons. As you agree, it isn't.
 
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Of course not...
 

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