Earnshaw's Theorem and a photon

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The discussion revolves around the application of Earnshaw's Theorem to a scenario involving a proton placed in the cavity of a hollow, uniformly charged sphere. Participants explore the implications of electric fields in this context and consider modifications to the system, such as replacing the proton with magnets.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that according to Earnshaw's Theorem, stable levitation is not possible in a system with fixed field strength obeying the inverse square law, questioning the behavior of the proton in the cavity.
  • Another participant claims the proton will remain at the center of the sphere because the electric field is zero there, suggesting that Earnshaw's Theorem may not apply due to the uniform field inside the sphere.
  • A subsequent post acknowledges the uniform field and proposes a modified scenario with magnets, questioning how the behavior would change and whether the magnetic field strength follows a similar decline pattern.
  • Several participants discuss the implications of the electric field being zero inside the cavity, with one suggesting that this does not constitute a stable configuration since the proton would not return to the center after a perturbation.
  • Another participant explains that in a hollow conducting sphere, the electric field is zero due to the absence of enclosed charge, referencing Gauss's Law and the behavior of image charges in relation to the proton's position.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the electric field being zero inside the cavity and the applicability of Earnshaw's Theorem. There is no consensus on the stability of the proton's position or the behavior of the modified system with magnets.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various principles such as Gauss's Law and the behavior of image charges, but there are unresolved questions regarding the stability of configurations and the nature of magnetic fields in the proposed scenarios.

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Imagine there is a hollow sphere charged with positive charge, distributed evenly. Then a proton is placed in the cavity. Would the proton levitate stably in the middle of the cavity?

By Earnshaw Theorem, any configuration of system with fixed field strength which obey inverse square law will not enable us to have stable levitation. (Since there are no local maxima or minima). But, in the above case, if the proton doesn't stay stably in the middle, where can it go? It is repelled in every direction isn't it?

Does the system above do not obey some of the assumption required by Earnshaws Theorem?

Thanks in advanced.
 
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The proton will stay in the center of the sphere, because there the electric field is zero.

I don't know the Earnshaw Theorem, but I think it does not apply in this case because inside a uniformly charged sphere the electric field goes like E ~ r and not as E ~ 1/r^2.
 
Thanks for the prompt reply. Yeah, I forgot that this is in uniform field, hence the field strength decrease by 1/r rather than 1/r^2.

Suppose if I substitute the proton with a sphere attached by many magnet with the same polarity facing up, and similarly, attach many magnet on the interior surface of the hollow sphere. How would the behaviour change? Would it still be the same? Or would the levitation lose its stability? I am not very sure whether the magnetic field strength decline by 1/r^2 or 1/r in this case...
 
CompuChip said:
The proton will stay in the center of the sphere, because there the electric field is zero.
Isn't the electric field zero inside the entire cavity? That would mean, it is not really a 'stable' configuration, in the sense that the proton returns to the center, in case of a small perturbation.
 
I think the electric field will be zero everywhere inside the sphere because it acts like a Faraday cage(try googling this).
 
A.T. said:
Isn't the electric field zero inside the entire cavity? That would mean, it is not really a 'stable' configuration, in the sense that the proton returns to the center, in case of a small perturbation.

You are right, I was thinking solid spheres. If the sphere is hollow the field is zero (apply Gauss's law, no enclosed charge, etc). Still, that is not E ~ 1/r^2 or even E ~ 1/r :-p
 
If you have a hollow conducting sphere (without any apertures), there can be no electric fields within the metal (from the inside surface to the outside surface). This means that there is no net charge inside the hollow sphere. If there is charge on the inside surface of the hollow sphere, there must be free compensating charge inside the hollow sphere. Use Gauss' Law.

If you have a single free proton inside a hollow conducting sphere, the surface image charges will re-arrange to provide suitable image charge (surface image charge density doesn't have to be integer charges, just its integral over the entire 4 pi surface). If the proton is in the center, then it is in quasistable equilibrium. If the proton is off center, it will be accelerated to the wall by the rearranging image charge. Compare this to a free charge proximal to a conducting metal plate. There is an image surface charge whose arrangement is equivalent to a mirror charge behind the conducting plate. There is net attraction.
 

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