Easy density question--no answer given

  • Thread starter Thread starter chawlasimrank
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Density
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving density and buoyancy in a hypothetical scenario on an alien world with a specific gravitational acceleration and atmospheric density. Participants are exploring the implications of these conditions on the density of beings that float in this atmosphere.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the concept of neutral buoyancy and relate it to familiar examples, such as helium balloons. They question what density is required for an object to achieve neutral buoyancy in the given atmospheric conditions.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants examining different interpretations of buoyancy and density. Some have suggested that the density of the beings must be equal to or less than the atmospheric density for neutral buoyancy, while others express uncertainty about the need for calculations or additional information.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of information regarding atmospheric pressure, which some participants feel is necessary for further analysis of the problem.

chawlasimrank
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
< Mentor Note -- Poster has been reminded that they need to use the HH Template and show their work >[/color]

A distant alien world has an acceleration due to gravity of g=100 m/s^2. Beings on this planet float in an atmosphere with a density of 5 kg/m^3, and they have a mass of 1 kg. What is their density?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
I would take "floating" to mean neutral buoyancy - like a helium balloon after a few weeks. It just drifts with the breeze without trying to rise or fall.
What has to happen to a helium balloon to get it to that state? As the helium leaks out of the balloon, the balloon gets smaller and its overall density increases and so it becomes less and less buoyant. What density does that helium balloon need to be neutrally buoyant?
 
.Scott said:
I would take "floating" to mean neutral buoyancy - like a helium balloon after a few weeks. It just drifts with the breeze without trying to rise or fall.
What has to happen to a helium balloon to get it to that state? As the helium leaks out of the balloon, its density increases and so it becomes less and less buoyant. What density does that helium balloon need to be neutrally buoyant?

The density would need to be less than 5 kg/m^3 correct?
 
Yup! Actually, it needs to be exactly that.
 
Exactly 5 kg/m^3? Not less? I thought I would still need a calculation to find out the actual density of these beings despite knowing that it would be less than the density given. I'm not overlooking a formula that relates mass and acceleration, am I?
 
I suppose less is okay. It would rise until its density matched the atmosphere.
That extra information isn't very useful. Even if you wanted to determine how far up they would float if they were less dense, you would need the atmospheric pressure - which is not given.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
17
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
5K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 62 ·
3
Replies
62
Views
5K