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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 500g dynamics cart attached to a 50g mass over a pulley, with the goal of finding the cart's acceleration and the friction between the cart and the track. Initial calculations incorrectly identified the average velocity and acceleration, leading to confusion about the total mass being accelerated. The correct average acceleration is determined to be 0.888 m/s² when considering the total mass of 550g. The net force calculations also reveal friction to be approximately -0.0016 N, but there is significant confusion regarding the terminology used for mass in the calculations. Clarifying the definitions and ensuring accurate substitutions in equations is essential for resolving the discrepancies in the problem-solving process.
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Easy N2L question... grade 11 physics

Problem: A 500g dynamics cart is attached to a 50g mass, which is suspended over a pulley. When released from rest, it took 1.5 s for the cart to move a distance of 1m.

Find: a) acceleration of cart,
b) friction between cart and track




Attempt; a) Given: Δd=1m, Δt=1.5s

Δv= Δd/Δt
Δv=1/1.5
Δv=.666 m/s

a=Δv/Δt
a=.666/1.5
a=.444 m/s²

Thus, ave. acceleration of cart = .444 m/s²

b) Given: Fapp = 0.49 N, mcart=.500 kg, a=.444 m/s²

FNet= ma → (.5)(.444)
FNet= .222

FNet= Fapp + f + FN + Fg (FN & Fg are redundant)

.222= 0.49 + f → .222 - .49 = f
f= -.268 N

Therefore friction = .268 N
 
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CONBOSS said:
Problem: A 500g dynamics cart is attached to a 50g mass, which is suspended over a pulley. When released from rest, it took 1.5 s for the cart to move a distance of 1m.

Find: a) acceleration of cart,
b) friction between cart and track




Attempt; a) Given: Δd=1m, Δt=1.5s

Δv= Δd/Δt
Δv=1/1.5
Δv=.666 m/s

a=Δv/Δt
a=.666/1.5
a=.444 m/s²

Thus, ave. acceleration of cart = .444 m/s²

b) Given: Fapp = 0.49 N, mcart=.500 kg, a=.444 m/s²

FNet= ma → (.5)(.444)
FNet= .222

FNet= Fapp + f + FN + Fg (FN & Fg are redundant)

.222= 0.49 + f → .222 - .49 = f
f= -.268 N

Therefore friction = .268 N

The line in red is incorrect. average velocity = Δd/Δt

When the object starts at rest, and has constant acceleration, the final velocity is twice the average velocity.
 


CONBOSS said:
Problem: A 500g dynamics cart is attached to a 50g mass, which is suspended over a pulley. When released from rest, it took 1.5 s for the cart to move a distance of 1m.

Find: a) acceleration of cart,
b) friction between cart and track

Attempt; a) Given: Δd=1m, Δt=1.5s

Δv= Δd/Δt
Δv=1/1.5 This is the average velocity. the final velocity is twice this.
Δv=.666 m/s

a=Δv/Δt
a=.666/1.5
a=.444 m/s² This is in error also.

Thus, ave. acceleration of cart = .444 m/s²

b) Given: Fapp = 0.49 N, mcart=.500 kg, a=.444 m/s²

FNet= ma → (.5)(.444)
FNet= .222

FNet= Fapp + f + FN + Fg (FN & Fg are redundant)

.222= 0.49 + f → .222 - .49 = f
f= -.268 N

Therefore friction = .268 N

See comments above.

The total amount of mass being accelerated is 550 g.
 


Attempt; a) Given: Δd=1m, Δt=1.5s

Δv= Δd/Δt
Δv=1/1.5
Δv=.666 m/s

a=Δv/Δt
a=(.666/1.5) x 2
a=..888 m/s²

Thus, acceleration of cart = .888 m/s²

b) Given: Fapp = 0.49 N, mcart=.550 kg, a=.888 m/s²

FNet= ma → (.550)(.888)
FNet= .4882

FNet= Fapp + f + FN + Fg (FN & Fg are redundant)

.4882= 0.49 + f → .4882 - .49 = f
f= -.0016?

Therefore friction = .0016 N
 


CONBOSS said:
Attempt; a) Given: Δd=1m, Δt=1.5s

Δv= Δd/Δt
Δv=1/1.5
Δv=.666 m/s This is still wrong, and putting a two in the next bit does give a correct numerical answer, but is poor compensation

a=Δv/Δt
a=(.666/1.5) x 2
a=..888 m/s²

Thus, acceleration of cart = .888 m/s²

b) Given: Fapp = 0.49 N, mcart=.550 kg, a=.888 m/s²

The mass of the Cart is only 500g, not 550. The mass of the system is 550, but you are claiming only the cart here. Perhaps you mean the total mass, but you have said mcart. You must say what you mean - which is the problem with the first part (Δv = Δd/Δt) You must state correctly, then substitute correctly



FNet= ma → (.550)(.888)
FNet= .4882

FNet= Fapp + f + FN + Fg (FN & Fg are redundant)


.4882= 0.49 + f → .4882 - .49 = f
f= -.0016?

Therefore friction = .0016 N

There is a chance this final answer is correct - but the explanations are very confused and contradictory.
 


Above poster SammyS said total mass was 550g, so I would assume to use 550g as my total mass for finding FNet right? I will fix the question when I write it out to make it more comprehensible!
 


CONBOSS said:
Above poster SammyS said total mass was 550g, so I would assume to use 550g as my total mass for finding FNet right? I will fix the question when I write it out to make it more comprehensible!

You may well be correct to use 550g, but you still call it mcart ! That's the problem.
 

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