Easy proof about spanning trees (for you)

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The discussion revolves around a proof related to spanning trees in undirected graphs, specifically focusing on the properties of cycles formed when adding edges to a spanning tree and the implications of removing edges from those cycles. The scope includes theoretical aspects of graph theory and homework-related problem-solving.

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Main Points Raised

  • Participants discuss the properties of a spanning tree, noting that adding an edge not in the tree creates a cycle.
  • One participant attempts to prove that removing an edge from the cycle results in a spanning tree, relying on the definitions of connectedness and acyclicity.
  • Another participant suggests a method for demonstrating connectivity in the modified graph after an edge is removed, involving the division of vertices into reachable and non-reachable subsets.
  • There is a clarification about the notation used for vertices and edges, with participants correcting each other on the variable names.
  • Questions arise regarding the definition of G2 and its role in the proof, indicating some confusion about the terms used in the original post.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the properties of spanning trees and cycles, but there is some confusion regarding the notation and definitions used, particularly concerning G2 and the variable names. No consensus is reached on the clarity of the proof steps.

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There are unresolved questions about the definitions and roles of G2 and the variable names used in the discussion, which may affect the clarity of the proof being discussed.

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Homework Statement


Let T be any spanning tree of an undirected graph G. Suppose that uv is any edge in G that is not in T. The following proofs are easy by using the definitions of undirected tree, spanning tree and cycle

a)Let G1 be the subgraph that results from adding uv to T. Show that G1 has a cycle involving uv, say (w1,w2,...wp,w1, where p>=3, u =w1 and v=wp

b) Suppose anyone edge wi,wi+1, is removed from the cycle created in part(a), creating a subgraph G2(which depends on i). Show that G2 is a spanning tree for G

Homework Equations


I think that this is relevant in this proof, any free tree with N vertices has N-1 edges. "The book did not give any hint".

The Attempt at a Solution


a)Let n be the number of vertices of an undirected graph. Therefore, its minimum spanning tree will have n-1 edges. A spanning tree in this case is also a connected acyclic graph which has the same property. If we add 1 more edge from G that is not in the spanning tree, we get n-1+1=n. This violates the property of CAG which implies that the graph has a cycle.

b)by part a, we have n vertices and n different edges, so if we take away 1, we will have n-1 different edges which implies that the graph is acyclic.
 
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Let G' be G with the edge wi,wi+1 removed.
Pick any vertex x in G. Divide the vertices of G into subsets A(x) and B(x) where vertices in A(x) can be reached from x via G' and vertices in B(x) cannot.
Pick a vertex y in B(x). Now all you need to do to prove (b) is to demonstrate a route from x to y in G2.
 
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andrewkirk said:
Let G' be G with the edge wi,wi+1 removed.
Pick any vertex x in G. Divide the vertices of G into subsets A(x) and B(x) where vertices in A(x) can be reached from v via G' and vertices in B(x) cannot.
Pick a vertex y in B(x). Now all you need to do to prove (b) is to demonstrate a route from x to y in G2.
Hi andrewirk, thank you so much for helping me out. What is v?
 
TheMathNoob said:
What is v?
That should be x. I started with u and v, then changed them to x and y when I saw that you'd already used those letters for edges. It looks like I missed one when I was changing over.
 
andrewkirk said:
That should be x. I started with u and v, then changed them to x and y when I saw that you'd already used those letters for edges. It looks like I missed one when I was changing over.
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andrewkirk said:
Let G' be G with the edge wi,wi+1 removed.
Pick any vertex x in G. Divide the vertices of G into subsets A(x) and B(x) where vertices in A(x) can be reached from x via G' and vertices in B(x) cannot.
Pick a vertex y in B(x). Now all you need to do to prove (b) is to demonstrate a route from x to y in G2.
what is G2?
 
TheMathNoob said:
what is G2?
It's what you defined it as in (b) of the OP
 

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