Easy tool to see a cross section?

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on visualizing the cross-section of an oval tube at various angles (10 to 60 degrees) using online tools and drawing techniques. Users recommend resources such as Rechneronline's cylindrical shell cutter and MeshMagic 3D for 3D modeling. Participants also suggest practical methods, including using a projector to visualize the shape and exploring mathematical approaches for accurate representation. The conversation highlights the need for specific tools and techniques to achieve the desired visualizations.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic geometry and cross-sections
  • Familiarity with 3D modeling software, specifically MeshMagic 3D
  • Knowledge of airflow dynamics in elliptical tubes
  • Ability to interpret and create sketches for engineering applications
NEXT STEPS
  • Research how to use MeshMagic 3D for creating cross-sections of 3D shapes
  • Explore mathematical methods for calculating cross-sections of elliptical tubes
  • Learn about airflow simulation techniques in CAD software
  • Investigate projection techniques for visualizing 3D shapes on 2D surfaces
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Engineers, designers, and students involved in fluid dynamics, 3D modeling, and geometric visualization will benefit from this discussion.

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Looking for a way to visualize cross sections.
I need to visualize what the cross section is of an oval tube is at angles of 10 degrees, 20, 30 up to 60. Is there an easy way to do this online somewhere or is there a mechanical drawing trick that can be done to see this result?
 
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Here is the way I would do it.
oval.jpg
oval.jpg
 
AZFIREBALL said:
Here is the way I would do it.
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Thanks AZFIREBALL. This looks like it might work for me if I can understand it all. I will have to lay this out on graph paper. I am not sure what the right figure is. Can you expand on which drawing is what?
 
Lnewqban said:
Not exactly your cross section, but it may help some:
https://rechneronline.de/pi/cut-cylindrical-shell.php
Thanks, this site is amazing. It sure does have lots of choices here. Just not the one I am looking for. I did plot the ellipse I need. It has an axial ratio of 2.2. But no way to see what an angled slice through it would look like.
I am plotting the airflow across an elliptical tube at an angle.
Is there someone here who knows how to do this in a basic drawing program? The only one I have is SketchUp 2013.
 
pyroartist said:
I am plotting the airflow across an elliptical tube at an angle.
You need to be more specific and give a sketch of the tube and the direction of flow relative the tube and angled end cut orientation
 
pyroartist said:
Thanks, this site is amazing.
...
I am plotting the airflow across an elliptical tube at an angle.
You are welcome. :smile:
Is this a solution to a practical problem?
If so, and if you don't find that tool, we could help you with some practical solutions after seeing some specifics of that project.
For example, will you need to cut the tubes at certain angles, what tool will you use, what material and dimensions of tubes are, etc.?
 
pyroartist said:
Is there someone here who knows how to do this in a basic drawing program?
Well, not me... But here is a 3D drawing/editing/viewing program I just stumbled across that happens to be free... it's even from an established supplier.
https://www.nchsoftware.com/meshmagic3d/index.html

Cheers,
Tom

p.s. Sorry about my earlier post #4, I mis-interpreted your requirements!
 
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JBA said:
You need to be more specific and give a sketch of the tube and the direction of flow relative the tube and angled end cut orientation
Ok, here is a sketch attached.
Oval tube cuts.jpg
 
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Tom, thanks for the link to the MeshMagic software. I loaded it and played with it for over an hour. I don't figure these things out easily. I finally got to draw a 3D oval tube as shown below but I don't see any way that this program will allow me to cut a cross-section and look at that cut as a 2D face. I added a proposed cut line to the screen shot with my photo editor program.
Oval tube dwg.jpg
 
  • #12
I don't have the program and the site documentation is sparse. They also have a pay version of the program (about which I also know nothing), that may have documentation.

If the program can do slices in arbitrary planes, that would be the simplest.

Can the program do intersections of objects? For instance have the oval tube pass thru a wall (flat plane) then inspect the shape of the result. Perhaps the tube should be a solid for this approach so the area on the plane can be subtracted, thereby showing a hole of the desired shape.

Here is a real 'out-of-the-box' idea: If you have a projector, slide or video, project the oval on a screen then rotate the screen to the desired angle.

The projection problem seems similar to projecting a shape on a display. If you assume the display is a CRT it's a little easier to think about projecting onto the screen face. This is a solved problem in computer graphics that is used in 3-D design programs. You would angle the tube as needed then move the observer viewpoint to the inside of the tube.

There is probably a straight-forward mathematical approach to the problem. Perhaps one of the math wizards on the site can come up with one.

Cheers,
Tom
 

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