Economics: find when utility maximized

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around maximizing utility in the context of consumer choice theory, specifically using marginal utility functions and a budget constraint. The original poster presents equations for marginal utilities (MUx and MUy) and a budget line equation, seeking guidance on how to approach the problem without requiring a complete solution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between marginal utilities and the budget constraint, questioning the definitions and roles of MUx and MUy. There is an attempt to clarify the expressions for MUx and MUy and how they relate to the budget constraint. Some participants suggest algebraic manipulation to connect the equations, while others consider the feasibility of mapping budget constraints to find solutions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering various interpretations and algebraic approaches. Some guidance has been provided regarding the manipulation of equations, and there is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in finding a closed-form solution. Participants are encouraged to explore different methods while recognizing the challenges of algebra.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted complexity in the equations presented, with some participants expressing uncertainty about algebraic manipulation. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the marginal utility functions and their implications within the budget constraint framework.

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Homework Statement



I must "maximize utility". This is done when the slope of -px/py = -MUx/MUy.

MUx = (1/4x^-2/3)(y^2/5)
MUy = (2/4x^1/3)(y^-1/5)
Budget line: 80 = 7x + 2y

Homework Equations



MUx = (1/4x^-2/3)(y^2/5)
MUy = (2/4x^1/3)(y^-1/5)
Budget line: 80 = 7x + 2y

The Attempt at a Solution


-px/py = -7/2

Thus, I must find when MUx/MUy = -7/2. I don't need the actual answer, just wondering how I would do this?
 
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939 said:

Homework Statement



I must "maximize utility". This is done when the slope of -px/py = -MUx/MUy.

MUx = (1/4x^-2/3)(y^2/5)
MUy = (2/4x^1/3)(y^-1/5)
Budget line: 80 = 7x + 2y

Homework Equations



MUx = (1/4x^-2/3)(y^2/5)
MUy = (2/4x^1/3)(y^-1/5)
Budget line: 80 = 7x + 2y

The Attempt at a Solution


-px/py = -7/2

Thus, I must find when MUx/MUy = -7/2. I don't need the actual answer, just wondering how I would do this?

Do you mean
MU_x = \frac{1}{4} x^{-2/3} y^{2/5},
or do you mean
MU_x = \frac{1}{4 x^{-2/3}} y^{2/5}? If you mean the former, use parentheses, like this: MUx = (1/4) x^(-2/3) y^(2/5), but if you mean the latter, use parenthese also, but in different places, like this: MUx = 1/(4 x^(-2/3)) y^(2/5), etc.

I will assume you want MUx = (1/4) x^(-2/3) y^(2/5) and MUy = (2/4) x^(1/3) y^(-1/5). So, just compute MUx/MUy using elementary algebra rules. Equating that to px/py gives one equation connecting x and y. The budget constraint gives another equation.

If the expressions you give above are correct, the final set of 2 equations in 2 unknowns does not gave any simple "closed-form" solution; it must be tackled numerically.
 
939 said:

Homework Statement



I must "maximize utility". This is done when the slope of -px/py = -MUx/MUy.

MUx = (1/4x^-2/3)(y^2/5)
MUy = (2/4x^1/3)(y^-1/5)
Budget line: 80 = 7x + 2y

Homework Equations



MUx = (1/4x^-2/3)(y^2/5)
MUy = (2/4x^1/3)(y^-1/5)
Budget line: 80 = 7x + 2y

The Attempt at a Solution


-px/py = -7/2

Thus, I must find when MUx/MUy = -7/2. I don't need the actual answer, just wondering how I would do this?

What do MUx and MUy mean? Each one is a function of both x and y, so what is the purpose of x in MUx and the purpose of y in MUy?

I see where the -7/2 number comes from, which is solving the budget line equation for y (i.e., writing the line equation in slope-intercept form):
7x + 2y = 80 ##\Rightarrow## y = (-7/2)x + 80.

Is all that is asked for as simple as dividing MUx by MUy?
 
Ray Vickson said:
Do you mean
MU_x = \frac{1}{4} x^{-2/3} y^{2/5},
or do you mean
MU_x = \frac{1}{4 x^{-2/3}} y^{2/5}? If you mean the former, use parentheses, like this: MUx = (1/4) x^(-2/3) y^(2/5), but if you mean the latter, use parenthese also, but in different places, like this: MUx = 1/(4 x^(-2/3)) y^(2/5), etc.

I will assume you want MUx = (1/4) x^(-2/3) y^(2/5) and MUy = (2/4) x^(1/3) y^(-1/5). So, just compute MUx/MUy using elementary algebra rules. Equating that to px/py gives one equation connecting x and y. The budget constraint gives another equation.

If the expressions you give above are correct, the final set of 2 equations in 2 unknowns does not gave any simple "closed-form" solution; it must be tackled numerically.

Thanks, and I wanted the first one.

Mark44 said:
What do MUx and MUy mean? Each one is a function of both x and y, so what is the purpose of x in MUx and the purpose of y in MUy?

They are different combinations of goods you can get within your budget constraint, i.e. in this case the budget constraint is 80, so you could buy so much of good x and so much of good y to remain in it, buy more of x, must buy less y, etc.

...

I'm just wondering if it would be possible to solve this by mapping out all the budget constraints, and then substituting the x and y values in for MUx/MUy and see which one = -7/2?
 
939 said:
Thanks, and I wanted the first one.



They are different combinations of goods you can get within your budget constraint, i.e. in this case the budget constraint is 80, so you could buy so much of good x and so much of good y to remain in it, buy more of x, must buy less y, etc.

...

I'm just wondering if it would be possible to solve this by mapping out all the budget constraints, and then substituting the x and y values in for MUx/MUy and see which one = -7/2?

Yes, but that is doing it the hard way. However, go ahead and try it for yourself. I already suggested another method; use whichever one you like best.
 
Ray Vickson said:
I already suggested another method; use whichever one you like best.

I know, but I'm really bad at algebra :(... Can you give some advice here?

7/2 = ((1/4) x^(-2/3) y^(2/5))/((2/4) x^(1/3) y^(-1/5))
7/2 = 1/2x^-1 y^3/5
...
 
939 said:
I know, but I'm really bad at algebra :(... Can you give some advice here?

7/2 = ((1/4) x^(-2/3) y^(2/5))/((2/4) x^(1/3) y^(-1/5))
7/2 = 1/2x^-1 y^3/5
...

So, you are saying
\frac{7}{2} = \frac{1}{2} \frac{y^{3/5}}{x}.
What is stopping you from solving for x in terms of y? After doing that, you can plug in that expression for x into the budget constraint, and you will have a single equation containing y alone.
 
Ray Vickson said:
So, you are saying
\frac{7}{2} = \frac{1}{2} \frac{y^{3/5}}{x}.
What is stopping you from solving for x in terms of y? After doing that, you can plug in that expression for x into the budget constraint, and you will have a single equation containing y alone.

Thanks, got it. I got it by solving x in terms of y.
 

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