Effect of rim width on a frisbee's stability and range

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The discussion revolves around the effects of varying rim widths on the aerodynamics, stability, and range of frisbees. The original poster is investigating how these factors influence gyroscopic precession while maintaining constant angle of attack, mass, and velocity.

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  • Participants discuss the importance of rim width and its impact on aerodynamics, suggesting that the shapes of the leading and trailing edges are significant. The original poster seeks guidance on experimental methods and relevant equations, indicating a desire for quantitative analysis.

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Some participants have provided links to articles and resources that may assist in the research. The original poster has collected video footage of frisbees with different rim widths and noted trends in range, but is looking for further formulas and analysis techniques. There is recognition of the challenge posed by the project, with suggestions to create graphs to hypothesize relationships.

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The original poster is a high school student working on this project, indicating a need for foundational guidance in physics and analysis. They have constructed a controlled frisbee launcher and are isolating rim width as the independent variable.

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How does varying thickness of rim width of frisbee affect the aerodynamics of the frisbee range and gyroscopic precession while keeping the angle of attack, mass of frisbees and the velocity constant? please help me with finding equations relevant and how I can experimentally deduce the variables if I have made one controlled frisbee launcher and have 5 frisbees with different width fo rim. THis is my research question for an investigation, so please tell something which can be experimentally deduced and worked upon.
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range equation and finding some equations whcih can be tested experimentally
How does varying thickness of rim width of frisbee affect the aerodynamics of the frisbee range and gyroscopic precession while keeping the angle of attack, mass of frisbees and the velocity constant?
please help me in the quantitative aspect which way I can explore and what I should do?
please help me with finding equations relevant and how I can experimentally deduce the variables if I have made one controlled frisbee launcher and have 5 frisbees with different width fo rim.
 

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Yes, the shapes of the leading and trailing edges are very important on proper lifting airstream.
 
BvU said:
Well, it's your research subject to formulate; not something you can offload to PF

What have you collected so far ? Seems to me it's mostly a matter of doing numerical simulations:

https://ninercommons.charlotte.edu/islandora/object/etd:2538/datastream/PDF/download/citation.pdf

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I am a high school student and that is why I need some guidance to do this project. I have made a frisbee launcher, mass and angle of attack are constant to isolate my IV rim width but facing difficulty with just the analysis and physics.
 
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BvU said:
Well, it's your research subject to formulate; not something you can offload to PF

What have you collected so far ? Seems to me it's mostly a matter of doing numerical simulations:

https://ninercommons.charlotte.edu/islandora/object/etd:2538/datastream/PDF/download/citation.pdf

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I have collected video footage of 2mm, 4mm , 6mm, 8mm and 10mm rim width frisbees with equal masses. and in video analysis I have seen a trend in range. But, I need more formulas to analyze my experiment and the rim width importance in depth experimentally.
 
Anjish said:
I am a high school student and that is why I need some guidance to do this project. I have made a frisbee launcher, mass and angle of attack are constant to isolate my IV rim width but facing difficulty with just the analysis and physics.
Hats off ! Quite a challenge you set for yourself ( I had guessed this would be for a PhD !)

I estimate the best you can do is make a set of graphs and see if you can hypothesize a relationship from them.

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Anjish said:
I have made one controlled frisbee launcher and have 5 frisbees with different width fo rim.
Cool. Can you upload some pictures? Use the "Attach files" at the lower left of the Edit window.
 
berkeman said:
Cool. Can you upload some pictures? Use the "Attach files" at the lower left of the Edit window.
Basically, I use my electric cycle to provide the torque required to throw the frisbees in a controlled manner every time as it is though to control throws with humans. If you can help me with the mathematics and analysis that would be awesome.
 

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