Effect of rim width on a frisbee's stability and range

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The discussion focuses on the impact of rim width on a frisbee's stability and range, emphasizing the need for quantitative analysis in aerodynamics. The participant has constructed a controlled frisbee launcher and tested frisbees with rim widths of 2mm, 4mm, 6mm, 8mm, and 10mm while keeping mass and angle of attack constant. Key resources shared include numerical simulation studies and articles that provide relevant equations for analysis. The participant seeks guidance on analyzing video footage to identify trends in range related to rim width.

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  • Understanding of aerodynamics principles, specifically gyroscopic precession
  • Familiarity with numerical simulations in physics
  • Basic knowledge of experimental design and controlled variables
  • Proficiency in data analysis techniques, including graphing and trend identification
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  • Research equations related to aerodynamics and gyroscopic motion for frisbees
  • Learn about numerical simulation tools applicable to aerodynamic studies
  • Explore video analysis software for extracting quantitative data from footage
  • Investigate the effects of leading and trailing edge shapes on frisbee performance
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This discussion is beneficial for high school students conducting physics experiments, educators in aerodynamics, and hobbyists interested in optimizing frisbee design and performance.

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How does varying thickness of rim width of frisbee affect the aerodynamics of the frisbee range and gyroscopic precession while keeping the angle of attack, mass of frisbees and the velocity constant? please help me with finding equations relevant and how I can experimentally deduce the variables if I have made one controlled frisbee launcher and have 5 frisbees with different width fo rim. THis is my research question for an investigation, so please tell something which can be experimentally deduced and worked upon.
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range equation and finding some equations whcih can be tested experimentally
How does varying thickness of rim width of frisbee affect the aerodynamics of the frisbee range and gyroscopic precession while keeping the angle of attack, mass of frisbees and the velocity constant?
please help me in the quantitative aspect which way I can explore and what I should do?
please help me with finding equations relevant and how I can experimentally deduce the variables if I have made one controlled frisbee launcher and have 5 frisbees with different width fo rim.
 

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Yes, the shapes of the leading and trailing edges are very important on proper lifting airstream.
 
BvU said:
Well, it's your research subject to formulate; not something you can offload to PF

What have you collected so far ? Seems to me it's mostly a matter of doing numerical simulations:

https://ninercommons.charlotte.edu/islandora/object/etd:2538/datastream/PDF/download/citation.pdf

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I am a high school student and that is why I need some guidance to do this project. I have made a frisbee launcher, mass and angle of attack are constant to isolate my IV rim width but facing difficulty with just the analysis and physics.
 
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BvU said:
Well, it's your research subject to formulate; not something you can offload to PF

What have you collected so far ? Seems to me it's mostly a matter of doing numerical simulations:

https://ninercommons.charlotte.edu/islandora/object/etd:2538/datastream/PDF/download/citation.pdf

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I have collected video footage of 2mm, 4mm , 6mm, 8mm and 10mm rim width frisbees with equal masses. and in video analysis I have seen a trend in range. But, I need more formulas to analyze my experiment and the rim width importance in depth experimentally.
 
Anjish said:
I am a high school student and that is why I need some guidance to do this project. I have made a frisbee launcher, mass and angle of attack are constant to isolate my IV rim width but facing difficulty with just the analysis and physics.
Hats off ! Quite a challenge you set for yourself ( I had guessed this would be for a PhD !)

I estimate the best you can do is make a set of graphs and see if you can hypothesize a relationship from them.

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Anjish said:
I have made one controlled frisbee launcher and have 5 frisbees with different width fo rim.
Cool. Can you upload some pictures? Use the "Attach files" at the lower left of the Edit window.
 
berkeman said:
Cool. Can you upload some pictures? Use the "Attach files" at the lower left of the Edit window.
Basically, I use my electric cycle to provide the torque required to throw the frisbees in a controlled manner every time as it is though to control throws with humans. If you can help me with the mathematics and analysis that would be awesome.
 

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