Effects of Removing a Spring on Oscillating Mass: Analysis and Amplitude Changes

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The discussion focuses on the effects of removing one spring from a mass-spring system, specifically analyzing the resulting motion and amplitude changes. The original motion is described by the equation x(t) = A sin(2ωt) + B cos(2ωt), while the new motion after removing the spring is given by x(t) = A sin(ωt) + B sin(ωt). The new amplitude is determined to be d/2 * sqrt(7), where d represents the initial amplitude with two springs. Key insights include the application of conservation of energy and the relationship between the coefficients A and B in the equations.

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  • #31
sqrt(3*d**2 + d/2*sqrt(3))
 
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  • #32
I don't understand how you got sqrt(3) inside sqrt().

By the way, I think you made a mistake early on when you got x = A sin 2wt + B cos 2wt. How did you get the 2 there?
 
  • #33
damn it should be sqrt(2) not 2 in there, and before that mistake I had A=d*sqrt(3) and B=d/2, A^2 = 3*d^2 and B^2 d/2*sqrt(3)
 
  • #34
And fixing that mistake I get A in the 1 spring to equal d/2*sqrt(6). I then get amplitude = sqrt(6*d**2 / 4 + d/2*sqrt(3))
 
  • #35
So the final result is?
 
  • #36
sqrt(6*d**2 / 4 + d/2*sqrt(3))
 
  • #37
One more time: how do you keep getting sqrt(3) inside sqrt() for amplitude? What is B for the 1-spring system?
 
  • #38
B is d/2
 
  • #39
Then how do you get this: sqrt(6*d**2 / 4 + d/2*sqrt(3))?
 
  • #40
I am an idiot. So for amplitude I get d/2*sqrt(7). I don't know why I added a sqrt(3) as it came from nowhere so ignore that and you should get this.
 
  • #41
I think that concludes this exercise. What you should really try to remember is how you can always convert ## A \sin \omega t + B \cos \omega t ## into ## C \sin (\omega t + \alpha) ##. In many cases, you can directly solve ##x'' + \omega^2x = 0 ## as ## C \sin (\omega t + \alpha) ## and determine ## C ## and ## \alpha ## from initial conditions. Also, the relationship between ## A ##, ## B ## and ## C ## is also a useful one (as you have surely noticed).
 

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