Eigenvalue of matrix proof by induction

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The discussion revolves around proving that if ##\alpha## is an eigenvalue of matrix ##B##, then ##\alpha^{n}## is an eigenvalue of matrix ##B^{n}## for positive integers ##n##. Participants are exploring the method of mathematical induction to establish this claim.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the base case for ##n = 1## and the subsequent cases for ##n = 2## and ##n = m##. There are suggestions to clarify the induction hypothesis and to explicitly state the assumptions being made. Some participants question the necessity of checking cases manually and the implications of different forms of induction.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to structure the induction proof and clarifying the roles of the induction hypothesis. There is an ongoing examination of the correctness of statements made regarding the induction process, and some participants express uncertainty about their interpretations.

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Participants note that the induction hypothesis should be clearly stated, and there is a mention of the potential for using either weak or strong induction. The discussion reflects a focus on ensuring the correctness of the argument before optimizing the presentation.

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Homework Statement
Show that if ##\alpha## is an eigenvalue of matrix ##B## then ##\alpha^{n}## is an eigenvalue of matrix ##B^{n}## for positive integer ##n##
Relevant Equations
##\alpha## is eigenvalue
##B\vec x = \alpha \vec x##
We consider base case (##n = 1##), ##B\vec x = \alpha \vec x##, this is true, so base case holds.

Now consider case ##n = 2##, then ##B^2\vec x = B(B\vec x) = B(\alpha \vec x) = \alpha(B\vec x) = \alpha(\alpha \vec x) = \alpha^2 \vec x##

Now consider ##n = m## case,

##B^m\vec x = B(B^{m - 1} \alpha) = B^m \alpha = \alpha^m \vec x##

Now consider ##n = m + 1## case,
##B^{m + 1}\alpha = B(B^m \alpha) = B(\alpha^m \vec x) = \alpha^m(B\vec x) = \alpha^k(\alpha \vec x) = \alpha^{m + 1}\vec x##

Is that correct use of induction?
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You can formulate more precisely. Instead of saying "consider ##n=m## case", we can say "assume that ## B^nx = \alpha ^nx ## for some ##n\geqslant 2##". Then for the case ##n+1## we have the equalities
<br /> B^{n+1}x = BB^nx = B\alpha ^nx = \alpha ^nBx = \alpha ^n\alpha x = \alpha ^{n+1}x.<br />
Right now you haven't made it explicit what your induction assumption is. Anyone familiar with the technique is able to fill in the gaps.
 
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TanWu said:
Homework Statement: Show that if ##\alpha## is an eigenvalue of matrix ##B## then ##\alpha^{n}## is an eigenvalue of matrix ##B^{n}## for positive integer ##n##
Relevant Equations: $\alpha$ is eigenvalue
##B\vec x = \alpha \vec x##

We consider base case (##n = 1##), ##B\vec x = \alpha \vec x##, this is true, so base case holds.

Now consider case ##n = 2##, then ##B^2\vec x = B(B\vec x) = B(\alpha \vec x) = \alpha(B\vec x) = \alpha(\alpha \vec x) = \alpha^2 \vec x##
You shouldn't need to show it for ##n=2##. After the base case, state the induction hypothesis:
$$B^m\vec x = \alpha^m \vec x$$
is true for some integer ##m>1##.

Apply the induction hypothesis to show its true for ##m+1##, as you have done so. Then you can conclude it's true for all integers.
 
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It is not wrong to check the claim up to ##m## manually. Sometimes that's even helpful. The induction hypothesis then is that the claim is true
  1. for some ##n\geqslant m## (weak induction);
  2. for all ##k\leqslant n##, where ##n\geqslant m## (strong induction).
In both cases the task is to prove the claim is true for ##n+1##. It doesn't matter which form of induction we use, they are equivalent.
 
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Sounds good, though I feel it's more concise/elegant to use weak induction here. But just to clarify, the claim being true for ##n+1##, or proving the claim is true for ##n+1##, is not any part of the induction hypothesis. Rather, it's the consequence that would follow if the induction hypothesis is true.
 
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Fair play on your last point. As for the first one, optimisation can be done later. First and foremost, it is important the argument is correct.
 
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@PeroK I have a nagging feeling that my statement in #5 about the induction hypothesis is not correct. If you have a moment, can you please point out what's wrong about it? Thank you.
 
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But just to clarify, the claim being true for n+1, or proving the claim is true for n+1, is not any part of the induction hypothesis.
Right. The induction hypothesis in this case is assuming that ##B^m\vec x = a^m\vec x## is true. Using this hypothesis, you show that it follows that ##B^{m+1}\vec x = a^{m+1}\vec x## must also be true. Of course you need to also establish that some base case is true.
 
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