Eigenvalue of Polynomial Transformation

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a linear transformation T defined on the space of quadratic polynomials P2. The original poster seeks to find the eigenvalues and bases for the eigenspaces of T, which is expressed in terms of polynomial coefficients.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the matrix representation of the transformation T by applying it to the basis polynomials 1, x, and x^2. Some participants suggest focusing on how these basis elements are transformed by T to construct the matrix correctly.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the process of determining the transformation of basis polynomials and the implications of including or excluding the coefficients in the matrix representation. There is a recognition of the importance of understanding the mapping of the general quadratic polynomial form.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the role of the coefficients a0, a1, and a2 in the context of the transformation and how they relate to the basis polynomials. Participants are considering the implications of these coefficients on the matrix representation of the transformation.

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Homework Statement


Let T:P2→P2 be defined by
T(a0+a1x+a2x2)=(2a0-a1+3a2)+(4a0-5a1)x + (a1+2a2)x2
1) Find the eigenvalues of T
2) Find the bases for the eigenspaces of T.

I believe the 'a' values are constants.

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


The problem I am having is actually pulling out the matrix for T. I know how to find eigenvalues (by solving det(λI-A) - A being the matrix) and from that finding the bases of the eigenspaces comes from substituting the eigenvalues into (λI-A) and performing elementary row operations to find the eigenvectors which form the bases.

What I have tried to do is separate the basis (1,x,x2) from the rest and come up with the matrix :
2a0 -a1 3a2
4a0 -5a1 0a2
0a0 a1 2a2
Am I on the right track here or am I barking up the wrong tree? If so what method should i follow?
 
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Well, sort of. You need to figure out which elements the polynomials [itex]1,x,x^2[/itex] get sent to by [itex]T[/itex]. Once you do that, put them into a matrix and proceed as you have described. So, if you put the polynomial [itex]p_1(x) = x[/itex] into [itex]T[/itex] what would come out "the other side"?
 
Hi PandaGunship! Welcome to PF! :smile:
PandaGunship said:
2a0 -a1 3a2
4a0 -5a1 0a2
0a0 a1 2a2

leave all the a's out! :wink:
 
Robert1986 said:
Well, sort of. You need to figure out which elements the polynomials [itex]1,x,x^2[/itex] get sent to by [itex]T[/itex]. Once you do that, put them into a matrix and proceed as you have described. So, if you put the polynomial [itex]p_1(x) = x[/itex] into [itex]T[/itex] what would come out "the other side"?
Just to check, my matrix is correct?
As per your direction, a0 goes to 2a0 + 4a0x +0x2 which I make into a column like the matrix I put it already?
tiny-tim said:
Hi PandaGunship! Welcome to PF! :smile:

leave all the a's out! :wink:
Thanks Tim :) I thought of leaving the a's out, but what of their importance? Are they just to show what each constant of the basis is mapped into?
 
PandaGunship said:
Thanks Tim :) I thought of leaving the a's out, but what of their importance? Are they just to show what each constant of the basis is mapped into?

No, your vectors will have a's. :smile:

(The 1 x x2 are just a basis like x y z …

you wouldn't expect x y z to appear in a vector or matrix, would you? :wink:)​
 
Well, I said to find out where [itex]p_1(x) = x[/itex] goes, and what you did was find where [itex]p(x) = a_0[/itex] goes. I only mentioned to do it as an example, so its OK that you did it for [itex]p(x) = a_0[/itex].

So, the [itex]a_0, a_1, a_2[/itex] are there because you need to know what [itex]T[/itex] does to a general quadratic polynomial, and that is the form of a general quadratic polynomial.

Now, the three basis polynomials we are using are: [itex]p_0(x) = 1, p_1(x) = x, p_2(x) = x^2[/itex]. Now, for each of these basis polynomials, what is [itex]a_0, a_1, a_2[/itex]? As an example, for [itex]p_0[/itex] we have that [itex]a_0 = 1, a_1 = 0, a_2 = 0[/itex]. So, [itex]T(p_0(x)) = 2a_0 + 4a_0x = a + 4x[/itex]. So, you got it correct, but as Tiny Tim said, you need to get rid of the a's because for the basis polynomials they are all 1 or 0.
 
tiny-tim said:
No, your vectors will have a's. :smile:

(The 1 x x2 are just a basis like x y z …

you wouldn't expect x y z to appear in a vector or matrix, would you? :wink:)​
I suppose not :P Thanks :)
Robert1986 said:
Well, I said to find out where [itex]p_1(x) = x[/itex] goes, and what you did was find where [itex]p(x) = a_0[/itex] goes. I only mentioned to do it as an example, so its OK that you did it for [itex]p(x) = a_0[/itex].

So, the [itex]a_0, a_1, a_2[/itex] are there because you need to know what [itex]T[/itex] does to a general quadratic polynomial, and that is the form of a general quadratic polynomial.

Now, the three basis polynomials we are using are: [itex]p_0(x) = 1, p_1(x) = x, p_2(x) = x^2[/itex]. Now, for each of these basis polynomials, what is [itex]a_0, a_1, a_2[/itex]? As an example, for [itex]p_0[/itex] we have that [itex]a_0 = 1, a_1 = 0, a_2 = 0[/itex]. So, [itex]T(p_0(x)) = 2a_0 + 4a_0x = a + 4x[/itex]. So, you got it correct, but as Tiny Tim said, you need to get rid of the a's because for the basis polynomials they are all 1 or 0.
Ok I understand properly now. In the beginning when I was going over this problem I thought that I must remove the a's but I didnt want to remove them 'just because'. I wanted to know that what I was doing was actually correct, even if my reasoning was a bit off the mark.
Thank you both for your help:biggrin:
 

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