Show that a matrix's transpose has same eigenvalue.

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The discussion revolves around proving that a matrix and its transpose have the same eigenvalues, focusing on the determinant properties of matrices and their transposes.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the determinants of a matrix and its transpose, questioning whether the provided reasoning sufficiently demonstrates that the eigenvalues are the same.

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Some participants express skepticism about the completeness of the original proof, while others suggest that the eigenvalue equations imply a relationship between the eigenvalues of the matrix and its transpose. There is a recognition of the need to show that the sets of solutions to the eigenvalue problems are equivalent.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding that each eigenvalue equation can have multiple solutions, and the focus is on the roots of the characteristic polynomial rather than individual eigenvalue comparisons.

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Show that a matrix and its transpose have the same eigenvalues.
I must show that det(A-λI)=det(A^t-λI)
Since det(A)=det(A^t)
→det(A-λI)=det((A-λI)^t)=det(A^t-λI^t)=det(A^t-λI)
Thus, A and A^t have the same eigenvalues.

Is the above enough to prove that a matrix and its transpose have the same eigenvalues or am i missing something?
 
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charlies1902 said:
Show that a matrix and its transpose have the same eigenvalues.
I must show that det(A-λI)=det(A^t-λI)
Since det(A)=det(A^t)
→det(A-λI)=det((A-λI)^t)=det(A^t-λI^t)=det(A^t-λI)
Thus, A and A^t have the same eigenvalues.

Is the above enough to prove that a matrix and its transpose have the same eigenvalues or am i missing something?

No, I don't think you are missing anything. The eigenvalues of A and A^t satisfy the same equation.
 
I don't think you've shown that they have the same eigenvalues.

You want to show that a=b in the following equations; Ax=ax and A^T x=bx

You know that Det[A-aI]=0 and Det[A^T-bI]=0 solves the eigenvalue problems.

Right now I don't see a way to do this, but I'm sure if you look in a linear text you'll find some theorems in the determinant section.
 
klawlor419 said:
I don't think you've shown that they have the same eigenvalues.

You want to show that a=b in the following equations; Ax=ax and A^T x=bx

You know that Det[A-aI]=0 and Det[A^T-bI]=0 solves the eigenvalue problems.

Right now I don't see a way to do this, but I'm sure if you look in a linear text you'll find some theorems in the determinant section.

If you know a is an eigenvalue iff Det[A-aI]=0 and Det[A^T-bI]=Det[A-aI], aren't you kind of done?
 
Dick said:
If you know a is an eigenvalue iff Det[A-aI]=0 and Det[A^T-bI]=Det[A-aI], aren't you kind of done?

Does this mean that eigenvalue a necessarily equals eigenvalue b?
 
klawlor419 said:
You want to show that a=b in the following equations; Ax=ax and A^T x=bx
No, you don't need to do that, which is just as well because you can't.
Each equation has multiple solutions. If you could show that an arbitrary pair, one from each equation, is the same then you would have shown all solutions are the same in each equation.
It is only necessary to show that the set of solutions is the same for each equation, and that is clear since the set is determined by the roots of the polynomial det(A-λI).
 
haruspex said:
No, you don't need to do that, which is just as well because you can't.
Each equation has multiple solutions. If you could show that an arbitrary pair, one from each equation, is the same then you would have shown all solutions are the same in each equation.
It is only necessary to show that the set of solutions is the same for each equation, and that is clear since the set is determined by the roots of the polynomial det(A-λI).

Thanks haruspex makes sense now.
 
klawlor419 said:
Does this mean that eigenvalue a necessarily equals eigenvalue b?

I meant to say Det[A^T-aI]=Det[A-aI]. I quoted the Det's from your comment and didn't notice the b.
 

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