Eigenvalues and vectors of a 4 by 4 matrix

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The discussion revolves around the topic of coupled harmonic oscillators, specifically focusing on a system involving two masses connected by springs. The participants are tasked with deriving a first-order linear system from given second-order differential equations, determining eigenvalues and eigenvectors from the corresponding matrix, and exploring the periodicity of solutions related to specific frequencies.

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the system into matrix form and the subsequent attempts to find eigenvalues. There is mention of confusion regarding the expression derived for eigenvalues and the methods to solve it. Some participants express uncertainty about the steps needed to simplify the polynomial equation obtained.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking clarification on specific steps in the process of finding eigenvalues. Guidance has been offered regarding the determinant and its relation to eigenvalues, but no consensus has been reached on the final solutions or methods.

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Homework Statement



Coupled Harmonic Oscillators. In this series of exercises you are asked
to generalize the material on harmonic oscillators in Section 6.2 to the
case where the oscillators are coupled. Suppose there are two masses m1
and m2 attached to springs and walls as shown in Figure 6.10. The springs
connecting mj to the walls both have spring constants k1, while the spring
connecting m1 and m2 has spring constant k2. This coupling means that
the motion of either mass affects the behavior of the other.
Let xj denote the displacement of each mass from its rest position, and
assume that both masses are equal to 1. The differential equations for
these coupled oscillators are then given by

x1'' = -k(1 + k2)x1 + k2x2
x2'' = k2x1 - (k1 + k2)x2

These equations are derived as follows. If m1 is moved to the right
(x1 > 0), the left spring is stretched and exerts a restorative force on
m1 given by -k1x1. Meanwhile, the central spring is compressed, so it
exerts a restorative force on m1 given by -k2x1. If the right spring is
stretched, then the central spring is compressed and exerts a restorative
force on m1 given by k2x2 (since x2 < 0). The forces on m2 are similar.

(a) Write these equations as a first-order linear system.
(b) Determine the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of the corresponding
matrix.
(c) Find the general solution.
(d) Let ω1 = √k1 and ω2 = √k1 + 2k2. What can be said about the
periodicity of solutions relative to the ωj? Prove this.

Homework Equations



(A - λI) = Ax

The Attempt at a Solution



Part a is ok but I'm stuck for the rest

For part a we set y1 = dx1/dt and therefore dy1/dt = d2x/dt2
Then y2= dx2/dt so we have a similar case of dy2/dt = d2x/dt2

I think this is enough to satisfy part a) of the question

So then we put them into matrix form to try and find the eigenvalues and vectors and get the following by rows. Columns are x1,y1, x2, y2 respectively.

dx1/dt = 0 1 0 0
dy1/dt = -(k1+k2) 0 k2 0
dx2/dt = 0 0 0 1
dy2/dt = k2 0 -(k1+k2) 0

So there is a diagonal of zeros meaning we have zero trace. By using the formula (A - λI) = Ax. An attempt was made to try and get the eigenvalues. I subtract λ across each term in the diagonal, multiply out the expression and I end up with the following expression.

k12λ + k1k2λ + k22λ. I don't know how to deal with this expression. I'm used to seeing things in the form λ2 + λ - c.

So any helpful tips?
 
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Ron Burgundypants said:

Homework Statement



Coupled Harmonic Oscillators. In this series of exercises you are asked
to generalize the material on harmonic oscillators in Section 6.2 to the
case where the oscillators are coupled. Suppose there are two masses m1
and m2 attached to springs and walls as shown in Figure 6.10. The springs
connecting mj to the walls both have spring constants k1, while the spring
connecting m1 and m2 has spring constant k2. This coupling means that
the motion of either mass affects the behavior of the other.
Let xj denote the displacement of each mass from its rest position, and
assume that both masses are equal to 1. The differential equations for
these coupled oscillators are then given by

x1'' = -k(1 + k2)x1 + k2x2
x2'' = k2x1 - (k1 + k2)x2

These equations are derived as follows. If m1 is moved to the right
(x1 > 0), the left spring is stretched and exerts a restorative force on
m1 given by -k1x1. Meanwhile, the central spring is compressed, so it
exerts a restorative force on m1 given by -k2x1. If the right spring is
stretched, then the central spring is compressed and exerts a restorative
force on m1 given by k2x2 (since x2 < 0). The forces on m2 are similar.

(a) Write these equations as a first-order linear system.
(b) Determine the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of the corresponding
matrix.
(c) Find the general solution.
(d) Let ω1 = √k1 and ω2 = √k1 + 2k2. What can be said about the
periodicity of solutions relative to the ωj? Prove this.

Homework Equations



(A - λI) = Ax

The Attempt at a Solution



Part a is ok but I'm stuck for the rest

For part a we set y1 = dx1/dt and therefore dy1/dt = d2x/dt2
Then y2= dx2/dt so we have a similar case of dy2/dt = d2x/dt2

I think this is enough to satisfy part a) of the question

So then we put them into matrix form to try and find the eigenvalues and vectors and get the following by rows. Columns are x1,y1, x2, y2 respectively.

dx1/dt = 0 1 0 0
dy1/dt = -(k1+k2) 0 k2 0
dx2/dt = 0 0 0 1
dy2/dt = k2 0 -(k1+k2) 0

So there is a diagonal of zeros meaning we have zero trace. By using the formula (A - λI) = Ax. An attempt was made to try and get the eigenvalues. I subtract λ across each term in the diagonal, multiply out the expression and I end up with the following expression.

k12λ + k1k2λ + k22λ. I don't know how to deal with this expression. I'm used to seeing things in the form λ2 + λ - c.

So any helpful tips?
Let's call your matrix A. Write the matrix ##A - \lambda I##, and then take its determinant, which you set equal to zero. That should give you an equation that you can solve for ##\lambda##.

The idea is that if ##\lambda## is an eigenvalue (with associated eigenvector ##\vec x##, then by definition, ##A\vec x = \lambda \vec x##. Equivalently, ##(A - \lambda I)\vec x = \vec 0##, which for nonzero vectors ##\vec x##, means that ##|A - \lambda I| = 0##.
 
Ok maybe I wasn't clear enough. Thanks for your response. I'm aware this is how you find the eigenvalue. My question is how do i solve the final expression to give me some eigenvalues. I also just realized I made a mistake...

My actual final expression is λ4 - 2λ3k2 + λ2(k22+k2 - k1) + λ(k1k2 - k22) = 0

Getting eigenvalues form this? Yikes...
 
Ron Burgundypants said:
Ok maybe I wasn't clear enough. Thanks for your response. I'm aware this is how you find the eigenvalue. My question is how do i solve the final expression to give me some eigenvalues. I also just realized I made a mistake...

My actual final expression is λ4 - 2λ3k2 + λ2(k22+k2 - k1) + λ(k1k2 - k22) = 0

Getting eigenvalues form this? Yikes...

The first eigenvalue is obvious; the second requires a bit of guesswork; and then you have a quadratic.
 

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